nmrch
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Well, we'll agree to disagree, you think we're getting a guy like Guerrero for that price is unprecedented, i don't see it that way. If you think that a theortiical 3.66 million dollar player minus the restriction is so much less valuable than Guerrero than we're just looking at different things, hell even just a 2.3{our slot) million dollar player plus DeJong and Lacastro minus restictions. -
Bear with me for a second The Jays would have escaped all penalties if they signed a guy for 3.66 million or less right? You and others are saying a restriction of the 300K signing is a really a big deal and its worth trading real talent for. Fine, lets go with that argument. But that penalty still exists for one year so we're paying kind of a big price for Guererro. Theoretically we could have signed someone that's only slightly less valuable than Guererro and not have any penalties, again you guys are arguing these penalties are really onerous. Trading DeJong and Lacastro to remove one restriction is justifiable but taking on that same restriction to sign Guererro is also suppsosed to make sense? When they could have bought a similar player for only 250K less?
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well maybe i'm just cynical. Guererro is worth a year of signing restrictions but not two? If we're really doing this to remove that one year restriction and that's a really big deal then we're paying a big price for Guererro. Or the 300K signing restriction isn't really a big deal and we're just saving Rogers money. What you think is more likely, based on what's happened in the past couple of years there's really only one right answer
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Sorry my mistake, the Jays would be spending 3 million over the slot value to sign Guererro before this trade was made, but only half of that is tax. So yeah 1.5 million is right.
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The Jays would have been hit with a ~3 million dollar tax if they didn't trade for this slot money. And you got idiots here who think Rogers wouldn't care about that money. We just sold two not insignificant prospects to save some cash, that's the reality, lets just accept it.
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If you guys really think away real talent to remove the 300K restriction two years from now{when there might not even be such a thing as IFA) then have i got a bridge to sell you.
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Its actually around 3 million dollars, correct me if i'm wrong. What planet are you living on that you think Rogers wouldn't care about that?
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common, let not become Rogers' useful idiots here. If removing that second year restriction is that big of a deal then why go over slot in the first place.
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but that's nothing, not close to enough for us to trade away real talent, the real motivation is saving Rogers money. If we're giving away players to save a couple of million then what does that say about the upcoming trade deadline.
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Apparently you can only trade for 50% of your slot, so that would be $2,324,100*.5 bringing our final slot to 3,486,154 That's crazy, that's just enough to stay below the severest of penalties, we'll still have a 300K signing limit next year. This trade hasn't done anything other than save Rogers around 2 million dollars and we've traded away real talent for that, what the ****. Someone please tell me how these numbers are wrong, this is f***ed up, we just traded not completely insignificant prospects just to save Rogers some money. We're still being hit with penalties.
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It probably won't, the penalties will go down to 1 year instead of 2 and a 500K limit instead of 300K
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Its 300K if you're over 15%
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that's what i thought, what the hell are people excited about again. In this system you either go way over the cap or you stay within it and try to go for quantity over quality. The useless GM of ours chose the least efficient middle ground.
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The Jays are over the cap now right? What are the penalities again?
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That's three straight starts for SRF with 2 walks or less, maybe its nothing, hopefully its a trend.
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GDT 06/27 Your TORONTO BLUEJAYS VS THE TEXAS RANGERS. 1.07 PM
nmrch replied to jays4life19's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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GDT 06/27 Your TORONTO BLUEJAYS VS THE TEXAS RANGERS. 1.07 PM
nmrch replied to jays4life19's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
how the f*** is that easy Bunt, if Andrus does that a 100 times he doesn't lay down a bunt exactly like that more than 5 times or so -
If the Twins lose(they're down 10-4) the Jays will be part of a 3 way tie for the 2nd wildcard
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Astros up 1-0 on the Yanks, Tampa still trailing, Baltimore tied it up though
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Tellez went deep too
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well you can live with it for now, given the extreme K rate and the home run suppression, just 1 in 230 batters faced. Looking at Aaron Sanchez's season in the MWL when he was 19 the numbers are actually close to identical, similar K to BB ratio, Reid-Foley is walking more and striking out more. And the higher K rate makes me think SRF is less smoke and mirrors than Sanchez was, his offspeed stuff must be working given the crazy high K rate, i don't think he's overwhelming guys with his fastball like Sanchez did at that level.
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Good start by SRF 4.1 IP 6K's, just 2 BB He's had a pretty impressive season despite walking 7.20 per 9
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WE'll agree to disagree i guess Oh BTW, after you penalize Boyd for age he isn't a super prospect. Statistical analysis is about more than just the players numbers, you also look at age, competition, ballpark etc
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Did someone just say that Syndergaard and Mr "1.05 K to BB ratio" are on the same level? Please tell me i'm hallucinating, that level of stupidity is not possible
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No one said statistical analysis has a 100% hit rate, that doesn't mean we throw reason and methodical analyses out of the window. Weather forecasts are wrong all the time but that doesn't mean we dont have a good idea of what tomorrow will be like
