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Nah yo, they probably would have won another 10 games in a row. That error made everyone really sad and they gave up after that error.
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DJ Davis 2 for 3 with a double and a walk. Now hitting .292. Strikeouts still high, but improving. It really isn't too late for him to start figuring things out.
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3.4 WAR last year, 2.2 WAR the year before that. When he's healthy, he's still a "good" player.
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He was available because Billy Beane is bipolar and likes to blow his roster up every other year. Who cares. Great trade for us, the fact that you are trying to stretch some sort of negative angle out of it is borderline absurd.
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Yawn. The hype is real, as are the skills he is showing. "Make more contact"? He's smacking the ball around. What he is showing is highly encouraging coming from a kid who's barely seen live pitching in three years.
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Blue Jays heavy in this week's BA Hot Sheet:
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Command has been a struggle for Norris more often than not. When did he have "pin point command"?
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Alford with a 4th walk and Urena tacks on a HR. Good day for the top hitters on that roster.
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It wasn't a "comparison" you tard; it was an example used to show how utterly stupid the supposed "max potential" argument was. Yeah, if Boyd magically starts throwing a plus breaking ball all of a sudden he could be a #3 starter. Yeah, if Anthony Gose all of a sudden learns to make contact and read pitches he's an All Star centerfielder. Neither is likely to happen, get the point? The point of reference is that both guys have had ample opportunities to show these skills that they are lacking, yet they're both past the stage of development where you can actually hope that they'll all of a sudden "learn". Boyd is a good pitcher, all I'm saying is that a select few of you are taking a kid who wasn't even supposed to become anything and subsequently overblowing his ability. His status has risen, but a few ticks in fastball velocity doesn't all of a sudden erase the fact that he has no true plus secondary pitches, which will absolutely hamper his MLB potential.
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Did you even read what I said? If it isn't likely or expected to happen, then why even bring it up? At that point you're not even talking about "max potential", you're simply hypothesizing on fantasy.
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He's a 24 year old who spent four years at a top collegiate program....why would you expect him to all of a sudden develop a plus secondary pitch? "If things work out" is a nice statement, but it doesn't carry a lot of weight when it is dependent on factors that are highly unlikely to occur. Anthony Gose is an All-Star CF "if things work out"...but that would require him to all of a sudden learn to develop significantly improved contact and pitch recognition skills, which given what we know about him, is at best a pipe-dream scenario. Boyd isn't a late-bloomer or a guy who just didn't have the coaching/attention needed to develop. If he hasn't learned to spin a plus breaking ball by now, it probably isn't going to happen.
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Boyd went from underrated to overrated really quickly. Don't get me wrong he's taken a step forward and now looks like a legitimate prospect, but lets not forget where we "started" from here. The fastball is nice, but his MLB upside is still as a replaceable back-end starter if he continues moving forward with no plus secondary pitch. You need an out pitch in the MLB, otherwise the hitters will simply eventually hit your fastball. He may be able to move his fastball around and dominate AA hitters, but that same approach is going to be a lot less effective against MLB hitters. The secondary problem is that he's a flyball pitcher, so while he's a guy who relies on his fastball, you can't even hope that he becomes a guy who can dominate by inducing a s***-ton of groundballs and weak contact. He's a prospect, but now we're talking about him as a potential #3 starter? Really? A #3 starter is a good, above-average MLB starter. Dial the expectations back. Look at Kendall Graveman.
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You're missing the part where the actual stats he's putting up don't mean much.
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He's going to be a #3 with no plus offspeed pitch? Alright. Is JA Happ a #3? Thats another lefty who can throw reasonably hard but lacks a real plus secondary offering which is why he'd get into lots of long pitch counts.
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He has nothing that projects as much more than average or slightly above average, which is his main problem.
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The velocity jump is nice, but he still doesn't have a put-away pitch. His ceiling may be something like J.A. Happ.
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Roberto Osuna or Noah Syndergaard in 5+ years?
metafour replied to Trouba95's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
The second part was sarcasm genius, because that was what NJH was implying: that I saw the Hoffman GIF and that was how I supposedly made my analysis. Hoffman has thrown a better breaking ball throughout their individual developmental paths. That will continue once he starts pitching professionally. -
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Hoffman hasn't even made a pro pitch yet, and his "grades" right now are affected by it. Watch, once he actually starts dominating against professional hitters those numerical grades will all shoot up in next year's installment of rankings. Just like Syndergaard's pitch grades have all risen as he has proven himself. Hoffman easily has the better breaking ball. -
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metafour replied to Trouba95's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
LMFAO @ those reports. Syndergaard has a potential 70 curveball now? The guy who could barely spin a passable breaking ball two years ago? Yeah, I totally saw that Hoffman GIF from yesterday bro and thats what I'm basing my opinion on. -
Roberto Osuna or Noah Syndergaard in 5+ years?
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Cordero. He's so hot right now. Cordero.
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2 good games, 2 poor games. Its just consistency. He struck out 8 in 4 innings with 1 ER on the 18th.
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Anthony Gose traded to Tigers for Devon Travis
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He's not. 2.5% BB rate 35.1% K rate .545 BABIP -
Anthony Gose traded to Tigers for Devon Travis
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Yup. His problem has always been that he takes a rigid black/white approach to scouting when he should know full well that anything can and WILL happen in baseball. Law deserves all the flack he receives for this reason alone, because he brings it upon himself. The snarky replies he gives just makes it even worse. Remember when Yan Gomes was a "non-prospect"? 8 WAR the past two seasons.

