BigCecil

Maybe ALL lol. This looks like one of those Fenway Park specials games tonight.

Bizarre tonight. Everywhere we aren't. Even that piss ant McGuire.

Good battle Vlad. You missed two cookies but stayed in there and hit the ball where it was pitched for dem ribbies.

Of course he gets a 2 strike hit. He did same against Gausman for ChiSox. BoSox BAPIP barfing everywhere.

More BAPIP ******** for Gausman. f***. Got to get some quick outs. Pitch count ticking up hard.

Sorry. I was watching the new Game of Thrones series, and started rewatching the old one. Got a little carried away lol

Feel bad for Jano. He was swinging the bat pretty well and 2 trips to the IL including HBP on the finger. now struggling badly.

It had to be said! May the doubters who gave a C or lower (like me) all be trodden upon by 1000 camels. All hail Bass returneth, and God King Atkins!

No. I'm not. I'm clearly not communicating myself well to you. You seem focused on defending the trade and Berrios. That's fine. Its an easily defensible deal. My point in simple. Those prospects had flaws but they were still highly rated. At least the Twins thought a lot of them and perhaps other teams. We will never know. Berrios deal was semi on par with the Castillo and Montas deals in 22 and look what it took Seattle to get Castillo. Different market yes. But in 21 SWR and Martin got it done. Clearly they had significant value so said that market. Let's leave it. I take your points.

No. I'm not severely over rating anyone. I simply said they could conceivably have traded for someone else to point out its the value of the prospects at the time of the deal, in the eyes of the receiver. Not what they are now. And I'm not making a complaint at all. I cant give you a name now. I wasn't a GM in the '21 deadline discussions. Neither were you. You don't really know, other than this deal for Berrios, how other teams valued those two either. We are just assessing a deal in hindsight and how/when it should be valued. I think the deal was fine then and now. Both the prospects and what was received value is currently diminished. The extension needs to be evaluated not as part of that deal, and on its own. In terms of Berrios bounce back his value in large part was chewing up innings with consistency staying healthy. In the AL East its tougher. Balanced schedule might help. I hope you are right. Comes down to fastball command in my view.

Yup. I may have to rethink my goal to see Kooch remade as the Japanese Josh Hader. Bass with the swing and miss last night was sooooooo good to see in that situation. He had some electric stuff. Love how he shifted to back to back FBs at 97 to start Dalbec off. Then went to the slider. He was helpless. Nasty!

Cardinal rule - don't let their best hitter Devers beat us.

Frigging Devers plays like he is Chappy against us. That was a nice mitt on Vlad.

This ump FFS. Both sides and then some.

Love me some Bass fishin

Of course. I do look at it that way. The extension changes that equation and is a different issue. Lots of guys argued at the time of the deal we lost it, without an extension if you look at the thread. The extension was a big deal and it was unknown element at the time. The extension was done based on a different evaluation by the FO other than the 1.5 year prospect deal. I'm sure at the time of the deal the FO hoped it was possible but its never a guaranteed outcome. Now they may wish it never happened...or not. Don't know. This FO spent about $140M on Ryu, Roark and Kooch and thats produced less than 4 net WAR I think. Back in 2012 I remember arguing with a really solid poster OTB. I was defending giving up prospects for a proven MLB talent, given we don't know what the prospects will ever be, and I listed off a bunch of flame outs. They made the point to me its really about the market's value at the time of the deal. What you are giving and what you are getting. You can't base the deal all on presumptive or predicted future performance by either. Since then, I've always accepted that principle.

That's all fair. Except the fact that SWR and Martin have turned out not to be great doesn't sugar coat it for me. For the most part a deal needs be assessed on the prospects value at the time of the deal without the benefit of hindsight. Just as we looked at Berrios value at the time of the deal. We could have used that prospect capital to acquire someone other than Berrios, for example.

Hope Berrios shows up tonight. Not trying to be negative but I just didn't think he was very good last start. He was better but he still had way too much FB leakage center cut. He ran into a cold Yanks team who barreled some up to wrong part of park, and others were missed. The K's were a good sign. His FB command has been dogshit all year. Hard to believe the guy we traded 2 top prospects for, and gave all that $ to is now our #4.

I was fortunate as well to do same. My son's team was in a good place to represent Alberta in the Canadian Championships their 2nd yr Majors when most of the team was 12. But Covid hit and that was the end of the road for that dream. The 2020 summer became a make shift 3 team "cohort" and all else was cancelled. All the kids lost that year of competitive ball.

Kooch needs a full team of 24/7 sports physiologists. Watching him pitch makes me need one too.

I'll probably regret this with a 3 gm series but Cordero totally sucks.

95.2 last year. 94.9 this year. Not much difference. I think he is a 97 max guy.

A very 2022 AB for Vlad with RISP and 2 out....but no matter. Jays in flight. Now shut em down Strip.

We are getting some BAPIP luck now. Loving it.

Tip of the cap to Chappy on that AB, and the ump for actually calling balls balls.