TwistedLogic
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As I said a month ago, I'd loveeeee if they took a flyer on Weeks. Defense is bad, but there's a monster in that bat. Four 124 wRC+ seasons in the last six. Perfect stop-gap option that you can probably re-up if Travis busts. And Everth Cabrera can go f*** himself.
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Blue Jays seeking replacement for Beeston
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Looks like he deleted some of his tweets, but I got a screencap from the page I hadn't yet refreshed (read bottom-up): http://i.gyazo.com/3ce1053ae68af77f34e2cfccebe09d1a.png -
Blue Jays seeking replacement for Beeston
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Jim Bowden: Bad math class never mind Jim Bowden: 6 months to July 22nd…Hoffman eligible to be PTBNL lmao, this f***ing idiot is a disgrace to every writer and every executive that has ever existed. How does he have a job? -
Blue Jays seeking replacement for Beeston
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You literally have to look no further than Giolito to realize what a f***ing stupid mistake it would be to trade Hoffman right now. I know that AA loves Hoffman, but I'm not sure they would consult with AA on the compensation. If they see him having a conflict of interest in the situation because of the likelihood of Duquette's presence meaning lesser job security for Alex, they may leave him out of the fold completely. Normally these things are kind of easy to predict. You say "well there's absolutely no precedence for this, nobody could be dumb enough to give up a chip like Hoffman for a guy like Duquette, it's simply not happening", but this f***tard Ed Rogers is a very uncomfortable and unpredictable wild card that we know nothing about, and his existence creates some very bothersome doubt. -
http://i.gyazo.com/fcf240640d3401d52390bcc034257447.png http://i.gyazo.com/7065ee5a198665633dfe6903e4c8151f.png Article: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/massive-fire-engulfs-edgewater-n-apartment-complex-article-1.2087477 Ouch.
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Blue Jays seeking replacement for Beeston
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I'm probably the biggest Hoffman fan and I'm probably nowhere near as high on Friedman as most of this forum, but I think I'd still make that trade in a heartbeat. Friedman probably gets you back the value you lost within the first week on the job, and the major league roster implications are immediate, whereas Hoffman, even optimistically, is probably two years away. -
http://i.gyazo.com/9d36be5ab15d9153cfae54e377461d0f.png Today I learned... f***ing hilarious http://i.imgur.com/9LHfIMh.gif I love the MLB. I wish this would happen again.
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Nice! That was an excellent draft pick as well. A lot of people thought that with the new draft system, the Jays would have trouble continuing to draft like they had been doing throughout AA's tenure, but with a couple of years having passed since then, the Jays drafting and development teams don't seem to have missed a step. The top tier guys are looking good, and they're getting legitimate value out of late-rounders (like Pillar and Pompey) and cheap punt-style picks (like Graveman and possibly Boyd). There's plenty of intriguing low-cost guys from 2014 as well, like Isaacs and Heidt, and all the guys we've yet to get a serious look at, like Brentz and Tellez from 2013.
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Haven't seen that one. On the topic of Norris GIFs though... Norris striking out Myers: http://www.bluejaysplus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NorrisMyers.gif Norris striking out Triple-A: http://gifs.houseofthebluebird.com/wp-content/uploads/Norris13K.gif And the full-scale version of the Papi one that NJH hates http://giant.gfycat.com/SillyBlankFox.gif
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I seriously hope so. He's really the only high-profile pitcher that the Jays have drafted over the past few years that hasn't gotten it together yet. At the time, I remember everyone feeling that he should have gone a lot higher if he hadn't injured his foot, and he's in the same list as Norris and Hoffman as guys that I was/am really optimistic about. Would be great if he ultimately pans out as well. On the other end though, I've really s*** the bed with my pitching prospect predictions. Over the past few years, I've probably been most excited about Dean, Anderson and Tellez, and I know it's still incredibly early for Tellez, but the first two guys haven't done anything. What's Matt Boyd's stock like right now?
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Listing Rajai Davis' tools and not mentioning his speed, lol'd. You can play him in the line-up every single time you face a lefty, and he can eventually come in as a pinch runner/pinch hitter everytime you face a right-handed starter. Yes, in that kind of a set-up, he very much would compensate for his poor defense, which should not actually ever take place in CF. Outside of the context of the Jays specific roster, the trade in itself was closer to a wash than it was to an outright steal.
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3-4 starters AND 4-5 pen arms? I really hope you don't expect 7-9 above average major leaguers out of a group of 12 pitching prospects. Also, are Stilson and Cardona no longer worth a mention? Didn't follow the minors as much as I would have liked this past year, always thought Stilson would at least develop into a decent reliever.
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There really isn't any reason to believe that he can't have a career more successful than Davis -- his bat is just as bad, his speed is just as incredible, and he's got monumentally better defense. These kind of players are horrific if you misuse them, and they can be incredibly valuable if used correctly. Think Erik Kratz. Gose fills a specific niche. The Jays at the time had Pompey, Pillar, Dirks and Mayberry, so they had no use for him, which is why the trade was a smart one to make, but that doesn't automatically mean that he has no value.
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Probably that the Jays swapped mediocrity with inexperience and both teams filled a need while dishing from a position of strength? Nobody's debating that Travis can be more valuable than Gose in the very near future, especially to the Jays, but Gose is just not as bad as people think he is. Gose isn't useless and Travis isn't blue chip. It was a good trade. I don't agree that it was a wash, I do think that the Jays "won" in the sense that they got back slightly more than they gave up and covered a very obvious hole, but I don't think it was highway robbery. Steamer's incredibly optimistic projections have Travis at 2.3 fWAR next year over a very generous 550 PAs. Gose gave us 1.3 wins in 274 PA's this past season. That's a 2.6 win pace over 550 PAs. Until Travis gets up here and tears the world apart, there really isn't nearly the gap in value between the two players that you guys wish there was.
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Who cares, Gose's job is not to hit the ball, it's to field it. And what do you mean the regression is coming? He had a .279 wOBA last year. What exactly do you expect to see regress? His defense will regress because of his K rate and BABIP? Everyone's always talking about how if Goins had even a shadow of a bat, he'd be a 2-win player. Well that's Gose right now. I've loved the trade since it happened, and I'm a big believer in Travis, but that's all that is right now: belief. Gose has a garbage bat, but he's a serviceable major league bench guy right now. Saying Gose is "garbage" or pretending that the Jays outright robbed the Tigers is nothing more than blind, disingenuous homerism. Everybody loved Rajai as a fourth OF, and he's made a 9 year career out of a lesser skillset than what Gose has.
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They're all great, I was just naming the three I'm most optimistic about that had the one thing in common in that I've been following them and begging for them to succeed since before each of their respective drafts. Although Osuna is the closest IFA to that group for me; I remember checking out every Yankees forum that week because of how stoked I was that we signed him, and how many Yankees fans were upset that they hadn't. I love Hutch, Castro, etc, but I'd be lying if I said I ever thought they'd on the trajectories that they're on. Hell, I wasn't all that optimistic for Hutch even going into his debut, despite how much he'd torn up the minors prior to being called up.
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That was f***ing awesome, haha.
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Yeah, it's so damn smooth. I've been a massive supporter of his since the day he was drafted so his resurgence last year was a big deal to me, and it makes me almost giddy with how close he is. Between Stroman, Norris and Hoffman, I feel really optimistic about the Jays pitching of the future.
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Gose gave us 1.3 wins in 90 games last year and Travis has yet to play above AA. Gose isn't "garbage" in comparison to Travis.
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AA has heavily implied that the Lind trade pretty much had to be done for the bigger moves that followed to happen. He's said on multiple occasions that one of the bigger appeals of the Donaldson move was to replace Lind's "middle-of-the-order" bat, so if moving Lind was the thing that pushed the Jays over the edge in giving up Maple Boy Wonder, or if the freed up salary made Martin's contract easier for them to stomach, then oh well. I don't mind kidding myself into believing that Lind was just an extension to A's trade, or that it was a three way, and the Jays ultimately gave up Lind, Lawrie, Nolin, Graveman and Barreto for Donaldson+Estrada.
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That threw me off when I first saw it too, lol. That was the first batter of his MLB career, and he walked off the mound before the call against a guy like Ortiz. I would have been pissed if I was a Sox fan if I saw that, haha. No, I think it's normal for catchers to reset throughout the wind-up. http://m.mlb.com/video/v36766239/ladstl-gm3-molina-wants-one-down-and-in/?query=yadier+molina And did you compare Dioner Navarro to Gary Carter and Johnny Bench? lol
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Fooled Ortiz. And he threw it almost exactly where Navarro asked for it That was the first batter he faced in his major league career too. He actually talked about it later, saying that he wouldn't have thrown a curveball in that situation himself, and found it funny that Navarro asked for one. http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/26271672/v37131577/mlb-rookie-prg-daniel-norris-tor-lhp/?c_id=mlb
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Oh, and he also does this:
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http://i.gyazo.com/d235675652af15c356281999bfa71211.png http://i.gyazo.com/6cc5f2c9424cd7f32ecfd2ca629c650e.png By Gemma Kalenko Sure, Ryan Dempster can talk the Chris Farley talk, but can he actually walk the walk? Blue Jays prospect Daniel Norris, unlike Dempster, actually lives in a van that could certainly be described as "down by the river." But his van (named Shaggy, in case you were wondering) doesn't stay in one place. According to MiLB.com's Josh Jackson: http://i.gyazo.com/d4767e660d80ef20b2909e0e4b27df4b.png So… what do other people think of this? http://i.gyazo.com/074e918aead6af983d47529811c676b4.png Want to know more? So do we. Here are the four most fascinating facts about MLB.com's no. 25 overall prospect/your new best friend: 1. He'll cook you dinner. He makes his coffee in a French press every morning and he prepares his meals on a camp stove. Even if the food is less than Michelin-starred, eating it is probably a great experience:
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It kinda is a bit of both. Johan Santana was awesome, but Koufax is still overrated. The BBWAA named him the greatest LHP of all time in 1997. Sure it was 97, but Grove, Spahn and Carlton had all already existed by that point.
