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  1. If it's true that a Navarro deal was getting held up by Rogers because he thought the O's would be interested in him for compensation, then hopefully a deal gets done sooner rather than later, now that the whole Duquette thing has been beaten to death and buried 6 feet under. They won't. They've already drawn up so many ******** narratives about payroll themselves, what with the whole currency conversion thing and accounting for next year's buyouts. They wrote themselves into a corner, and they've essentially created all the excuses Rogers will need by themselves.
  2. Who cares, let's do it anyway. You'll easily get enough participation to run it to top 10 at least. There's nothing else to discuss right now, and this is an exciting time to rate the Jays prospects, because everyone will have a different list.
  3. Pando probably thinks it's ice cream. Hence the glee. Bautista is a couple weeks away from getting his 10-and-5 rights, so yeah, I'd say it's probably Bautista. Edwin was acquired in '09 and then lost to the Athletics on waivers in 2010. We got him back after the Athletics released him.
  4. Was thinking about this a couple nights ago and it made me sick to realize the kind of pen we entered 2014 with, how it actually played out, and what we're currently left with. Jays entered the season last year with Janssen, Santos, Cecil, Loup, Delabar, Rogers and Jeffress. If you think back to how good most of those guys each were at one point or another, it hurts to see how much the Jays have lost to attrition. Only Loup and Cecil remain from that group, with a wish left with Delabar, and absolutely nobody else having established themselves as a valuable reliever in 2014.
  5. http://i.gyazo.com/c7f27a3ec914ce6a4018913a1aad3314.png
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  7. This is so beautiful, it made me shed a tear.
  8. Just like I feared, he gets more than twice what I thought he would. s***** deals like Duke and Janssen are really pushing the middle-of-the-road reliever market past an uncomfortable threshold. I really don't see how it's possible for guys like Badenhop, K-Rod or Ogando to make less than 5M after this, which is unfortunate for the Jays, because most of the guys that are still on the market probably just got priced out of their budget. Worth noting: Casey Janssen will make ten times as much as Jesse Crain in the 2015 season.
  9. Exactly. They were well below replacement level. -10 wins from the batters alone, not a single reliever over 0.3 wins (their best reliever was worse than Todd Redmond) and they had a total of 0 starting pitchers with an ERA of less than 4. It's probably the worst team of all time by a fair margin, and with a 54-108 record, they seem to have actually gotten fairly lucky.
  10. No, they were historically bad. They were so bad that it should literally be regarded as legend. How did they even win 1 out of every 3 games? Yeah, I was looking at this last night. It was Rickey's rookie season, and ended up being the only season of his life in which he was a below replacement level player.
  11. Random late night off topic thought: how the f*** did the 1979 Athletics win 54 games?
  12. I really don't see him getting more than 2M. Feel like he would have signed ages ago if someone offered him that. Given how f***ed up and unpredictable the market has been this year though, I could be totally wrong.
  13. Can we not use Steve Adams as a source for anything ever again please?
  14. I don't like Axford and Casey on the same team, but I like Casey more than Axford. Perfect world scenario, they sign K-Rod and Badenhop, bring back Casey, and give Delabar another shot in ST. Realistically, they probably dont wanna afford even two of those first three guys.
  15. This is under the assumption that he doesn't just demand that the option become guaranteed in exchange for waving his no-trade clause, which seems to be a very likely scenario.
  16. Well there's a straw man if I've ever seen one. I didn't advocate anything. I said that Reyes and Buehrle had provided surplus value on their contracts to this point. I stated a fact. I didn't say it was a good trade.
  17. And Rasmus took a dirty slide into Infante that put him out for a month, in a year where Infante was actually valuable. Who cares? It's done. It's in the past. At most you should hate the player. It has nothing to do with the team that the guy played for. http://i.gyazo.com/31cb5d86c6c6fb13df0f4d17a3ec3aa0.png
  18. Someone who argues that Goins is a 2-war player looks brilliant when he's standing next to the guy that believes in the man-in-white, or the guy that wants Donaldson and Hoffman for Duquette. I don't remember, probably.
  19. Look at things like Burnett spurning the Jays for the Yankees, or Danks talking s*** to Bautista on the field, or the White Sox bullpen starting the whole man-in-white thing. I don't know anybody who hates those players because of some trivial ******** thing from years ago. Martin accused the Jays of sign stealing and rejected the Canadian WBC team because they didn't let him play shortstop, yet everyone here still appreciated his talents enough to welcome him with open arms when they signed him. Even looking at things that happened a long time ago, I don't know anybody that's clinging to ancient history and hating on the Tigers for their heated rivalry with the Jays in the 80s and 90s. It's just f***ing weird that O's fans are like that. There really isn't any conceivable comparison, at least from what I've seen.
  20. Well first of all, I think a large amount of us here appreciate what Law does as a prospects guy and we constantly refer to his prospect lists, tweets and chats. We also take serious notice when Law does say something good about a Jays prospect. But the two main differences I see in the Jays/Law and O's/Rosenthal thing are a) there aren't as many moron Jays fans that blindly s*** on everything Law says simply out of bias and spite, and Law comes off as a douchebag to fans of nearly every team. The guy seriously got himself a time out on twitter. As someone who didn't follow the Jays when Law worked with them and having no real opinion of Law one way or another, I think there's a world of difference in the personalities between Law and Rosenthal.
  21. The biggest takeaway from knowing these idiots exist is that it makes people like Gruber on this board look like members of the MENSA society. When you come across the JP Arencibia of fan bases, you really do appreciate your Navarros quite a bit more.
  22. They're some of the most pathetic, cringeworthy people I've come across in my life. Based on how they talk about Rosenthal, I thought maybe he'd left their paper a few years ago. 14 years? Really? And then the Cito thing, which happened 20 years ago. Were every one of you left at the altar or something? Jesus christ. f***ing get over it, you miserable lowlife turds. This Duquette thing will probably take them to 2035. Joke of a fanbase.
  23. Fine. I apologize, RJF. I had a compassion failure.
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