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My first Jays' jersey-style T-shirt is going to be Goins. Isn't worth the cost of a real jersey but, I'm rooting for the kid.
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It's hard to wrap your mind around though. The way these stays are presented its as if they are rigid. Really we're just talking mean probable outcome. Goins hitting enough to surpass a 90 wRC+ is possible, it's just highly highly unlikely. Probably a 99.99 percentile outcome.
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Most important thing is that this year's pick is protected. Last years comp pick already is. A top 10 pick would make dipping in to the FA market that much more appealing.
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Ask them about Masterson and Asdrubal while you have them on the phone.
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Thanks Gruber. FYI I didn't include AAA because Thole didn't have a large enough sample of PA's but the gap in performance was about the same. It is also worth noting that Thole has been exceptionally bad at the plate this season. The post was meant to compare Goins' and Simmons' D more than Goins' and Thole's bat. I couldn't avoid a bat comp with a Jay on the list. The timing of the Fangraphs article was perfect as we have been indirectly discussing the run value of defence over the last few days. Bottom line is Goins will have to be exceptional in the field to be an above replacement level player as he isn't going to hit a lick. Simmons' stats go to show that you can be a very very valuable player even with a limited bat.
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You just copy and paste but, you have to make sure to highlight the table itself and not just the text (start and end your selection outside of the table border).
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right]2.5[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]-3.5[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]12.9[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]1.5[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]7.8[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, bgcolor: #E5E5E5, align: right]2.5[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: rgAltRow] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]6[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular]Brian Dozier[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular]Twins[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]129[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]547[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].243[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].311[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].425[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]17[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_break, align: right]8.2 %[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]18.8 %[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].182[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].273[/TD] [TD=class: 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The Prospect/Minor Leagues Thread
DuckDuckGose replied to theblujay's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
A well done scouting report for Stroman. http://battingleadoff.com/2013/09/10/player-report-marcus-stroman-rhp-tor-aa/- 6,727 replies
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I read an interesting article today on how bad Andrelton Simmons would have to hit in order to be replacement level, which can be found here; http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/a-replacement-level-andrelton-simmons/. The author determined that this season Simmons has saved 65.2 runs with his defense (using fWAR). To be replacement level the defensive run value plus the offensive run value must equal zero (by definition a replacement level player is worth 0 runs/PA, or 0 WAR). Those numbers add up to +65.2 runs. So if we want a replacement-level Simmons, we want to set his batting value at -65.2 runs, over 773 plate appearances. After division, that gives us -0.084 runs per PA. These were this season's closest offensive comparables; What if we look just at this season, so as to enhance your perspective? Some players who have posted similar batting run values per plate appearance: Danny Espinosa, -0.087 Laynce Nix, -0.083 Josh Thole, -0.082 Cesar Izturis, -0.081 Jimmy Paredes, -0.081 Now to bring this back to Goins. The argument was that Goins is good enough defensively to be an above replacement level player in the MLB. Well Simmons is about as good a defender as possible in the MLB. To be replacement level this season he would have to hit like Thole. I thought it would be interesting to compare Goins to Thole. Please refer to both of their AA and high A stats. Goins; [TABLE=class: rgMasterTable, width: 978] [TR] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray]Season[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray]Team [/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]Age[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]G[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]AB[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]PA[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]2B[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]3B[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]HR[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]BB[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]SO[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]SB[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]CS[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]AVG[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]BB%[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]K%[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]OBP[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]SLG[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]OPS[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]ISO[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]wOBA[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]wRC+[/TH] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: rgMasterTable, width: 978] [TR=class: rgRow grid_minors_show, bgcolor: #E5E5E5] [TD=class: grid_line_regular]2012[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular]Blue Jays (AA)[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]24[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]136[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]546[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]618[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]33[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]4[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]7[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]47[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]78[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]15[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]9[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].289[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]7.6 %[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]12.6 %[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].342[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].403[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].745[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].114[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].336[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]105[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: rgMasterTable, width: 978] [TR=class: rgRow grid_minors_show, bgcolor: #E5E5E5] [TD=class: grid_line_regular]2011[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular]Blue Jays (A+)[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]23[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]101[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]353[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]398[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]24[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]5[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]3[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]32[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]67[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]2[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]2[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].286[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]8.0 %[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]16.8 %[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].343[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].408[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].751[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].122[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].343[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]109[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Thole; [TABLE=class: rgMasterTable, width: 978] [TR] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray]Season[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray]Team [/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]Age[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]G[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]AB[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]PA[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]2B[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]3B[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]HR[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]BB[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]SO[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]SB[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]CS[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]AVG[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]BB%[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]K%[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]OBP[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]SLG[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]OPS[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]ISO[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]wOBA[/TH] [TH=class: rgHeader, bgcolor: gray, align: right]wRC+[/TH] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: rgMasterTable, width: 978] [TR=class: rgRow grid_minors_show, bgcolor: #E5E5E5] [TD=class: grid_line_regular]2009[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular]Mets (AA)[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]22[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]103[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]384[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]442[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]29[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]2[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]1[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]42[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]34[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]8[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]4[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].328[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]9.5 %[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]7.7 %[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].395[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].422[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].816[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].094[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].372[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]129[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: rgMasterTable, width: 978] [TR=class: rgRow grid_minors_show, bgcolor: #E5E5E5] [TD=class: grid_line_regular]2008[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular]Mets (A+)[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]21[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]111[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]347[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]402[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]25[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]2[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]5[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]45[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]38[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]2[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]1[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].300[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]11.2 %[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]9.5 %[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].382[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].427[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].808[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].127[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right].371[/TD] [TD=class: grid_line_regular, align: right]130[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Thole was a much better hitter at the same level and a younger age. Now consider for a second that Goins isn't the defender Simmons is and he hasn't hit as well as Thole in his career. How does that make you feel? Confident?
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Don't Get Your Hopes Up - Blue Jays Scouted Tanaka (Elliot)
DuckDuckGose replied to GD's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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I can see the comp in the way they go after balls and their demeanor at the plate. Gritty fast, somewhat out of control, awhite guys.
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Has to be the other way though; sign Beltran and trade Lind.
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If Rogers drops $50M attendance could go up, anything less than a huge splash and it is going down.
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Is that really dreaming big though? Seems more like dreaming reasonable to me. Cano, Garza, McCann and Tanaka please. That'd be dreaming big and bring payroll up to the same level as the big boys .
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Hormones and growth factors have been linked to increased tumour rates. Seeing as we don't know what Melky put in to his body it is impossible to say this tumour was unrelated.
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I suspect the Yankees will be big players in the SP market this off-season. However, I feel they will take a run at Garza and Tanaka before Kuroda. If AA comes in early with a strong offer he may not shop around very long.
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I'd really like to land Kuroda. Stealing him from the NYY would be huge.
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Alex Anthopoulos on PTS - today 5:20 ET
DuckDuckGose replied to G-Snarls's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
If Rogers gave him a new 5 year deal I would agree. At the end of his tenure he made some desperate moves to try and keep his job. On a long term term deal I think he could have grown the farm and rebuilt this club. That being said I'm happy he was fired and AA was brought in. I thought the organization needed a change of direction and AA really was great early in his tenure. AA is a young GM, his inexperience meant failure was inevitable. AA has failed in back-to-back off-seasons now but in very different ways. I'm hoping he learns from his experience and adapts appropriately. Hopefully we will see him shuffle the front office as well. Clearly the scouting army isn't working. -
Alex Anthopoulos on PTS - today 5:20 ET
DuckDuckGose replied to G-Snarls's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
I really do miss the Wednesday night Jays Talk with JP. He was a mediocre GM and preferred the American media but he treated the fans well. -
Seems like I missed a good one...
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From the MLBTR article Gsnarls posted; Gsnarls
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Don't Get Your Hopes Up - Blue Jays Scouted Tanaka (Elliot)
DuckDuckGose replied to GD's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
The BA scouting report ace posted earlier today said Tanaka touched 93-96mph. From what I've read he sits in the low 90's that's paired with a plus slider and mid 70's splitter.

