saskjayfan

I had to go watch the youtube clip of Muni fake running off first...who would have thought that could actually work..def would have been a double play imo

saki bluff!

hopefully more...way to go Colby!

f***..price is over 100 pitches, got hit in the leg and they still don't take him out.....Detroit has zero faith in the bullpen

kid has terrible mechanics...simply getting lucky

My point all along is that you're not a baseball expert and you're not as smart as you think you are. You've seen Sanchez pitch a handful of times on your computer and you're questioning what the baseball professionals who work for the Jays are doing with a pitcher. These professionals see him each and every day. They see every pitch. They talk to the pitcher. You're an arrogant f***ing blowhard who talks a big game. I said all along that I wasn't an expert in pitching mechanics. That doesn't mean I've never heard of google. They Jays disagree with your ideas about pitching mechanics. Dr. Zig also disagrees with your ideas about pitching mechanics. Old Dr. Zig has done more than 50,000 3d motion analysis based assessments. I'm sure you know more than he does too though. He did a bio-mechanical assessment on Tiger Woods. Old Tiger could have probably saved some money and just asked for your opinion. http://zigsports.wordpress.com/2011/09/01/why-stephen-strasburgs-future-has-another-date-with-injury-and-a-surgeon/ For the record, I think you're a very smart guy and clearly know the game of baseball. If I ever needed a lawyer, I'd seek you out. I just have no problem giving professionals working for the Jays the benefit of the doubt over fans posting on an internet board.

I'm sorry if you're sad that I don't think you know more than baseball professionals. Sanchez' stride length which is about 87.5% of his height is not optimal. Would he have less stress on his arm if he was closer to 100% or more? Would his velocity be better?

well there hasn't been much not to like about Sanchez so far, but it's only been 9.1 innings. It's pretty easy to argue that you same with your beliefs. You decided you did not like Sanchez based on minor league playing time and you doing your darnedest to retrofit an argument into that pre-existing belief. You think his results have been poor so in the bigs? Even if I had no zero knowledge of your beliefs or the jays pitching coaches beliefs, I would trust the Jays pitching coaches. I truly don't know what they are thinking, but if they make changes to a player I pretty much give them the benefit of the doubt because they are professionals who know more than myself. To the best of my knowledge, you've never held a position in professional baseball. If you have, I might consider capitulating on my stance. I've asked three times already. I'm trying to learn from you oh wise one. Would Sanchez have better control, less strain on his arm and better velocity if he pushed off more, dragged his toe and had a stride length closer to 100% or more? Why can't you enlighten poor uninformed individuals like myself? To deny the world of your brilliance is really a shame.

same way you measured roy's toe drag

I'm not talking out my ass. Arguing about distance is a useless argument. If you freeze exactly when his foot touches down his toe is not far from the rubber and it drags after. Roy never slid more than 6 inches prior to making contact with his lead foot his back foot slide a couple inches prior to his front foot hit and continued to slide after the front foot made contact. Roy Haladayd relative to other pitchers in the MLB, had a shorter stride length. I'm not falling back on the appeal to authority, although it does aid my argument. Why would they shorten this stride length if it wasn't for his benefit? Why don't you have the balls to answer direct questions. Sanchez strides 85% to 90% of height. Do you feel he should be closer to 100% or better yet closer to 120% like Lincecum. Look at Lincecum's motion..there's a guy who drags his foot a lot prior to his front foot hitting. Halladay's action isn't anywhere close to that. Would Sanchez have better control, less strain on his arm and better velocity if he pushed off more, dragged his toe and had a stride length closer to 100% or more?

You freeze frame both at 9 seconds and Roy has very little drag. I'm sure you tell your wife that that distance is 6 inches...but I can assure you it's not. Their positions are not drastically different. I can capitulate, Roy is maybe 2 inches further out than Sanchez. All you have to do is measure the distance. It's not f***ing rocket science. You're also looking at 2 single pitches...I'm sure the length of stride varies slightly from pitch to pitch for most pitchers. Just so we're clear. A pitcher with a long stride length, one who drags is foot will demonstrate better velocity, better control and less strain on his arm than one like Sanchez who has a shorter stride length. Please explain why in the f*** would the Jays professionals shorten his stride length if it was detrimental for him as a pitcher?

one, you can look at Roy and Sanchez in freeze frame and you will see their stride length is almost identical. You make it sound like Sanchez does not push off, does not use his core or his lower half at all. That's ridiculous. His stride length is roughly 5.5 feet or 80 to 90% of his height depending on the pitch. Sure it's not 100% or more like many pitchers in the MLB or 120% plus or whatever Lincecum reaches, but he's not standing upright and throwing the ball either. You make it sound like he's 100% arm and not action comes from his lower half and core. All pitchers bodies and natural flexibility and tendencies in movements are different. The blue jays staff are obviously professionals. Why did they shorten his stride length? Do they not know that this will cause him to have less control, less velocity and more strain on his arm like you have suggested? Perhaps, he actually will have more control, increased velocity and less strain on his arm because of shortening his stride length and you are incorrect. When we talk about him shortening his stride length we are talking probably somewhere in the neighbourhood of 6 inches on an average throw.

Hey junior, isn't it past your bedtime yet? So many on here post sample ridiculously small sample sizes all the time to support their argument. Why should I be immune from this. I'd love to talk about his arm action and what I've seen, but I understand that sort of thing is frowned upon. It's all about the statistics. Well, he's only pitched 30 innings since making adjustments that AA talked about that helped clean some things up and springboard him to the bigs. I'd prefer a larger sample size myself, but what are you going to do. My position is that utilizing a larger sample size looking at a greater body of work, where change occurred all the time makes no sense. Sure, his impressive start will likely have hick ups and set backs. You make adjustments all the time as you begin to fall into bad habits, but the foundation was built over the past several years. He was promoted because the club felt like he had a strong enough foundation to handle the big leagues and make the adjustments one needs to make at this level over time. Personally, I think the kid looks pretty f***ing good. I Know, I'm just suppose to look at his minor league stats and realize that moving him at the deadline for a prado like player would have been the best thing to do, but I just have to play devils advocate and go against the herd on that one.

He did make changes towards the end of June...AA talked about it. I think you're a terrible judge of talent. His delivery does not look wild as in Ubaldo Jimenez wild at all. His delivery looks free and easy. It's pretty much the opposite of too crazy. He's walked 7 in his last 30 and a third innings pitched, which dates back to the end of June. I wonder why that is important? That's a walk rate of just over 2 per 9. He only pitched 2 innings as a reliever in AAA and he didn't walk a batter. All you did is talk about regurgitate talk about his short stride length that Law likes to talk about. Sanchez has the exact same stride length as Doc Halladay. Kid's going to be fine.

man hutch looks good tonight

there's nobody even posting on the game day thread...I think everyone assumes we have no shot.

The Jays have a lot going for them. They gave Melky a shot post PED. Melky likes it here. The Jays have EE and Jose Bautista signed to very cheap contracts. You go to Melky and say we'll give you 3 years 36...that's more than EE got....back load the contract a bit....Melky has more than earned 3 years 36 this year.

The Jays should be signing Melky

is Vincent one of your other screen names..lol. Sanchez changed his arm slot in June. He showed much better control his last couple outings in AAA and 2 walks in 9.1 innings in the bigs. That would suggest improvement in his ability control his pitches. Vincent said that he has not shown any improvement in his ability to control his pitches. It's easy to make conclusion that he's basing his evaluation on one inning given his comment and Sanchez' results since altering his arm slot in June.

some of you have broken this kid down to the point of evaluating every single pitch. He misses wide outside badly and some of you are posting how bad his control is. The kid just turned 22. There has been a tremendous amount of change and improvement with the kid over the past number of years. When you are making changes you don't necessarily see positive results right away. He has pitched 9.1 innings. He has struck out 7, walked 2 given up 3 runs for a 2.89 ERA and has a WHIP of 0.64. It makes no sense to make ultimate judgements on a guy based off 9.1 innings, but it makes even less sense to judge a guy based off 1 single inning.

it's mid season...he's missed 6 weeks. He played 3 games. Kendry's Morales signed june. He didn't have a training camp. He played zero games in the minors. He was in the big league starting lineup right away. Bringing Lawrie back is common sense...I hate extended stretches for players in the minors. If he's healthy, he's healthy. It's been just under 6 weeks since his injury...He should be in the bigs after 3 rehab games and he is.

kratz couldn't hit...and you guys make it sound like he was the best defensive catcher ever...he was solid defensively, better than the other 2....but he couldn't hit worth s***

Kratz is s***

that was a terrible tag