John_Havok

Yup. THough I suspect he wont be facing many 27 year old relievers that just made AAA last season with 5+ ERAs and nearly 2 WHIPs.

I can say with near certainty that while the Jays themselves may have lost money in their own little vacuum, they made Rogers WAAAAAAAAAAAY more than they lost. Rogers Communication annual gross profit for 2022 was $4.917 billion.

No real middle ground there lol

The "when Nate is healthy he should be with the big club" has been pretty much true for the past 3 seasons, he's just never been healthy enough for it to happen.

White being injured doesn't hurt either. If White was healthy, you know he'd get the last spot.

There is no suggestion really. s*** happens. Deal with it and move on. Pitchers need time to ramp their arms up, hitters probably need less time overall but pitchers need hitters to throw to. Spring Training is fine the way it is.

17 whiffs, dude is on fire in the spring. Please please please keep that going. All 5 curveballs were for strikes too, which is new. Maybe he can utilize that to steal a first pitch strike occasionally.

If only he'd gone to the WBC, he might not have been playing in this game and been fine.

And we're stuck with him for another 4 seasons after this at 6 million per with a full NTC until 2025, then just a modified NTC after that. Happy f***ing days

Ryan Goins was a LHB. Career splits aginst RHP: wRC+ 66, Aginst LHP. wRC+ 57 Santiago Espinal is a RHB with a wRC+ of 91 against RHP, and 125 against LHP. He was also highly overrated on D and was basically average. Thinking Espinal is Ryan Goins 2.0 is a terrible take. He's probably good enough to be a starter on 25 teams in baseball

No I folowoed it, just hadnt heard the exact time frame mentioned. When he first got hit they said it was broken, uncertain recovery and surgery was needed. The release for his 2+ month time frame just officially came out a few hours ago. The time frame had been speculated earlier just based on history as 8-10 weeks. Yes that's similar to 2+ months.

Altuve out 2 months+ due to needing surgery on his thumb

2023 “Friday Night Baseball” Schedule on Apple TV+ Friday, April 7 Texas Rangers at Chicago Cubs 2 p.m. ET San Diego Padres at Atlanta Braves 7 p.m. ET Friday, April 14 San Francisco Giants at Detroit Tigers 6:30 p.m. ET Los Angeles Angels at Boston Red Sox 7 p.m. ET Friday, April 21 Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yankees 7 p.m. ET Houston Astros at Atlanta Braves 7 p.m. ET Friday, April 28 Philadelphia Phillies at Houston Astros 8 p.m. ET St. Louis Cardinals at Los Angeles Dodgers 10 p.m. ET Friday, May 5 Chicago White Sox at Cincinnati Reds 6:30 p.m. ET Minnesota Twins at Cleveland Guardians 7 p.m. ET Friday, May 12 Kansas City Royals at Milwaukee Brewers 8 p.m. ET Chicago Cubs at Minnesota Twins 8 p.m. ET Friday, May 19 Baltimore Orioles at Toronto Blue Jays 7 p.m. ET Seattle Mariners at Atlanta Braves7 p.m. ET Friday, May 26 San Diego Padres at New York Yankees 7 p.m. ET Chicago White Sox at Detroit Tigers 6:30 p.m. ET Friday, June 2 Milwaukee Brewers at Cincinnati Reds 5 p.m. ET Cleveland Guardians at Minnesota Twins 8 p.m. ET Friday, June 9 Kansas City Royals at Baltimore Orioles 7 p.m. ET Seattle Mariners at Los Angeles Angels 9:30 p.m. ET Friday, June 16 Pittsburgh Pirates at Milwaukee Brewers 8 p.m. ET Chicago White Sox at Seattle Mariners 10 p.m. ET Friday, June 23 Pittsburgh Pirates at Miami Marlins 6:30 p.m. ET New York Mets at Philadelphia Phillies 7 p.m. ET Friday, June 30 Milwaukee Brewers at Pittsburgh Pirates7 p.m. ET Arizona Diamondbacks at Los Angeles Angels 9:30 p.m. ET LOL, dozens of Pirates fans will be upset 3 fridays in a row in June.

I have a fairly non-scientific approah to this. take last years win totals and then add and subtract around 10 wins to get a decent range of "woulda coulda shoulda" outcomes, check the team to see if anything major occurred that would drastically change anything. If not, expect something roughly similar.

Oddly enough, SS is Espinals best position so far in limited sample size. 4 OAA in not even 100 attempts. Yes yes i know... small sample, s*** could go either way. Maybe when i said "best" defender, i should have clarified or used a different word. Espinal is above average at 3 different IF positions. He plays them all very well and his versatility makes him far more valuable than he is given credit for.

Here's the numbers: Chappy career at 3b for OAA - 2523 attempts, 74% success rate with 72% estimated success rate. 50 OAA Espinal career at 3b for OAA - 275 attempts, 75% succes rate with 73% estimated success rate. 4 OAA Sample size differences are large enough that a true comparison isnt really possible, especially without the breakdown of the 1 star to 5 star play ranges that could happen in those extra 2250 attempts

Big difference between "could win" and "will win" The Jays are very capable of winning 100+, whether they do will depend on many factors that aren't exactly super predictable.

Yeah, and certainly dont mean to say that Chappy isn't great. I just think Espy is probably his equal if not better, problem is... Espy doesn't have enough stick to play everyday. in the 3 years that Espinal has played, he has been 89th, 90th and 96th percentile as a defender in OAA. That's about as legit as it gets. Just sorted the OAA Leaderboard with minimum 250 attempts from 2020-2022 - the Blue Jays have 4 of the top 30 on their team this season. Varsho(16th with 23), Chapman (21st with 19), Kiermaier(26th with 18) and Espinal (30th with 16). The gap is not huge. Chappy had 1169 fielding attempts, Espinal just 745. Merrifield is 40th on the list also.

Varsho stung that one too, too bad it was right at the CF.

Espinal is probably the best defensive IF on the Jays entire roster, yes, even better than Chapman.

I missed the eye test, but here's the raw data

Affected Blue Jays games for the Apple TV s*** through June 30th (last half of the season schedule hasn't been finalized yet) Friday, April 21 Toronto Blue Jays at New York Yankees 7 p.m. ET Friday, May 19 Baltimore Orioles at Toronto Blue Jays 7 p.m. ET

I saw this same thing, but I have not seen this number actually verified yet. Would be astounding if accurate.

It really was completely polar from game to game and day to day. Towards the end though, all the games were pretty great. The only real stain on the WBC this year was the 2 higher profile injuries that people will always whine about, even though both were really just freak accidents.

Do we have anyone here dumb enough to fall for that?