John_Havok

Exactly. The reason as to why they need to appeal at 3rd, even though theres already 3 outs, is what confuses people. The fact that he never tagged at 3rd bjt still crossed the plate before the 3rd out means the run scores. Getting a runner out from failing to tag is NOT a force out. So, since its not a force out, the run would score by rule definition that only a 3rd out force out would negate a run that has already crossed the plate before the 3rd out. The need to appeal to 3rd to get the "4th out" is exactly why the rule exists.

Justin Lehr - Director of Pitching development and Joe Sclafani - director of player development would be responsible for the overall direction of the system and what to focus on broadly. As for how this gets executed at each level and for each prospect would be a little more conviluted of you were trying to identify the eaxct reason why player or pitcher X isnt improving the way they wanted or as fast etc. Lehr hasnt even been there for 2 full seasons yet.

So no Rogers, and hopefully no Varland though he will probably be available. Dude has thrown a ton lately.

Just a guess on my part but i think the delay was deciding what to do when they realized they never gave the Jays the opportunity to appeal given the confusion of the outs. They probably realized early enough in the process what the rules say and the run should score, butvtheybalso realized they dun f*cked up in the way they handled it. Its almost reminiscnet of a playoff game i recall where a catcher threw the ball back to the pitcher. But the hitter, who was in the batters box, had stuck his arm and bat out a bit to adjust his sleeve and the ball hit the bat and rolled on to the field. Defense reacted initially to get the ball while the runner from third started home but then the home plate ump waved evrything off and declared the play dead so the defense stopped trying to get the ball though the runner continued and crossed home plate. Thats situation took a while to resolve too and the run scored, as it should by the rulebook. Defense argues they were robbed of the opportunity to make the out because the ump declared the play dead so they stopped trying. That situation wasnt quick to resolve either even though the rules were pretty clear and the umps just bungled the on-field play while it happened. Very memorable. Easily the single most memorable thing about that otherwise boring game.

Yeah true. I think the thing that hangs up anlot of peoples brains on this type of play is that players being caught not tagging after a fly ball is a force play when it's not. Only force outs as the 3rd out negates a run of the guy has already crossed the plate before the out was registered. The only legit beef here was the fact the Jays were denied a chance to appeal at 3rd.

Its no different than if a guy leaves early before a catch and the defense doesnt appeal. He scores without tagging up. The 4th out rule is on the books for this exact play

Commin misconception. You absolutely can if they don't appeal

They ran a near .600 babip in that stretch

had a W right before that string too though and were 7-3 over the previous 10. That's about as good as it's going to get. "Just win series" and they'll be right there playing for a wildcard at the end. Sure, a nice 30 game stretch like the Red Sox just had where they're running like a .550 babip would help....

Trade deadline target Ty Southsiene just hit his first professional HR for Vancouver on the first pitch of the game. Plus power unlocked after only 3 games in the system. Atkins is a boss.

Tucker Toman up to AA a few games back. Still just 22 and having a pretty good season for a kid about 80% of the way to being written off a year ago. 12 HRs this year when he'd only hit 15 total over the previous 4 seasons. Virtually every metric across the board is trending the right way. Avg, walk rate, ISO all up without a higher K rate or wildly weird babip. He's been playing mostly 3b but also getting reps at 2b and a couple at 1st. Left handed hitter. Pretty sure he's rule 5 eligible too so maybe he's played himself onto the 40 man in the offseason.

No. I just mean his injury type isn't one that has regular updates. He's done for the year almost guaranteed.

One adjustment away from being good is something you could say about a whole lot of players.

You asked this 5 days ago. Nothing has changed since then

I wonder what perecntile his EV ranks amongst 19 year olds.

Recognizing sarcasm isnt one of your strengths

I was going to say something like this except in a few less paragraphs. Atkins likes a high-floor profile based on contact and defense for the most part, Exceptions obviously exist but it's easier to understand why. He wants the high floor guys so they can plug and play in times when it's called for to replace big leaguers who are injured and the guys they call up won't be replacement level bums and negative WAR sinkholes in a lineup. That's a decent way to operate too when you have the financial muscle to be active in the deep end of the FA pool every year and can sign some of the bigger names (not all, obviously). Then, of course you hope your performance department can make enough of an impact to get them to at least the next level with the bat and be a true major league regular for a decent stretch of years. It won't always work, but when it does it creates a lot of flexibility in the payroll they need to be able to sign the Ceases, Gausmans, Hoffmans, and Springers when they need to.

If its the start of a 2-month tear of 200 wRC+ Vladdy... fine. Other than that.... I prefer pineapple.

Yimi may actually be done. Thoracic Outlet Syndrome diagnosis. Might be calling it a career at this point.

Yeah. 12-15 PA should be good

He has options so they may have wanted him to start in Buffalo and serve as the next man up when Scherzer's next old man injury happens and shuts him down for the season

Gross. Keep him on the bench

Apparently the plan for the remainder of the season (prior to Yesavage injury) was a 6-man rotation of Cease, Trey, Soriano, Scherzer, Bieber and Taillon.

That has literally nothing to do with what i said, which was simply to point out Parker is being evaluated by the industy as a 3b in a few years, not a "SS of the future?" as you had indicated. Nothing more, nothing less.

Maybe, but the guys who are supposed to hit for power... need to hit for power. The major reason for the Jays lack of ISO is on Vlad, Kirk to a lesser extent due to injury, Springer, again due to early injury, Santander, injury and Barger, injury. Kirk and Springer are pretty much back to form now amd Okamoto has been a nice add, but Vlad's issues are so bad it cancels out Springer and Kirk being back.