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  1. John_Havok
    Kinda yeah, but....wasn't even a bad 3-0 pitch.
  2. John_Havok
    No worries boys, the pen will hold this.
  3. John_Havok
    Because he knew he was about to give up 5 runs?
  4. John_Havok
    Yall bumping yesterdays gdt
  5. John_Havok
    Springer going on a heater right now.... while awesome for him, is actually pissing me off. lol
  6. John_Havok
    Youre right that they dont have to act like New York or LA and just keep everyone and hope.... but they also dont need to act like the Rays and trade everyone before they get to arb 2 regardless of how good they are. Its just that of all the scenarios that could have played out, many of which are extremely positive, the scenario currently playing out is like the 3rd worst one imaginable. And contending doesn't necessarily mean contending for best team in baseball. I don't think they had any delusions of being a team in that conversation, but a top 10 team? That's a contending team, regardless of how they get into the playoffs. And to think they could be a top 10 team in 2024 isnt a stretch when you see they were a top 9 team in 2023 that had several offensive players massively underperform. So, a team that isnt the Rays and doesnt have to be, is never going to trade Bo with 2 years left on his deal.
  7. John_Havok
    All of that is hindsight though... and we have no idea how close or not close they were in extension talks. But lets assume they were far enough apart that they knew an extension couldn't get done this past offseason, why should that automatically equate to being traded? They still had plans to compete this season, so trading him in the last offseason wouldnt make sense either. Obviously nobody sees Bo being this bad in 2024, so the "well he had a bad few months last year so it should have been obvious he was going to be terrible" argument is just brainless. Not saying you're making that argument, but you know some people think it. There really was no reason in the last offseason to trade Bo when they had plans on contending in 2024. Hell even if Bo flat out said "i will not sign an extension here so don't bother offering" they'd still look at keeping him for at least 2024 before looking at a deal in this upcoming offseason. unfortunately, worst case scenario happened... Bo sucks and his value for trade is in the shitter.
  8. John_Havok
    As well they should. The thing with those smaller market teams that receive revenue sharing, they also get those additional "small market" comp picks every year between rounds 1 and 2 and rounds 2 and 3. I think rather than excluding them from a top 10 pick, they should be excluded from those ones instead.
  9. John_Havok
    I think if they're at the place where all the pending FAs are being dumped, they wont be likely to bring in any OF from outside the org unless it's a pure placeholder. I don't see them acquiring a longer-term OF in season.
  10. John_Havok
    Trading KK whilst eating a chunk of his remaining salary should be the easiest sell out there. The return won't be anything impactful though.
  11. John_Havok
    Roof is open
  12. John_Havok
    Somewhere, there are clouds that need to get yelled at....
  13. John_Havok
    Danny Jansen placed on Paternity list, Serven recalled.
  14. John_Havok
    I checked the zone map for him today and that's pretty much the case ...today anyway. Maybe only 6 or 7 fastballs in the bottom third of the zone, a ton were left up. His splitters locations were pretty much exactly where he'd want them, but as you indicated, without yhe consistent fastball, easy to lay off.
  15. John_Havok
    I'd have to dig in a bit, but I suspect that it's the same type of issue as when he's had trouble in the past. Today's game I never saw many effectively located fastballs at the bottom of the zone which pretty much allows any hitter to let any splitters go. The old "if it's low let it go" approach.
  16. John_Havok
    Varsho's more selective plate approach from early on in the season has disappeared
  17. John_Havok
    No it doesn't. The only reason small markets do it is because their owners are cheap *******s that never sign even above average players to FA deals. They tank because they have to. Toronto doesn't have to.
  18. John_Havok
    He's just lost his fastball command completely today
  19. John_Havok
    Rogers needs the Jays to be semi-relevant every year. A scorched earth rebuild will not happen.
  20. John_Havok
    I have no doubt that he's "on the market", but I struggle to find a team hypothetically willing to overpay for him. I also look at his value to Rogers off the field and even knowing he's underperformed his 2021 ceiling ever since he's unquestionably the face of the Jays and the face of the Rogers marketing machine to the casual fans. And, like it or not, that's a huge factor in his tradeability. Purely from an on field only perspective, of course he's tradeable, every player is. Nobody is untouchable when you look at only the on field part. It's the off-field part that makes it murky with Vlad. I'm not saying its right, or wrong, it's reality. Trading Vlad, regardless of him being the biggest trade chip, is far more impactful than just the on-field product. All of that said, name me the teams you suspect would be willing to overpay and I'll gladly entertain that discourse.
  21. John_Havok
    I'm just curious as to what kind of return you figure he would fetch. Right now he's a career 131 wRC+ hitter. Are you thinking the Jays are somehow going to get multiple guys back via trade that will end up hitting to that level? That's pretty rare. Understand I'm not opposed to a potential Vlad trade (though I don't think it will happen due to mainly business reasons) I just think he's the kind of guy that when he gets traded, he's easily the best guy in the trade and the guys you get back never get to his level. He's not a superstar on the field right now but he's worth massive money to Rogers as is.
  22. John_Havok
    Only Turner can do that. Vetrin presents.
  23. John_Havok
    Then we're pretty much on the same page. To me the solution really isn't finding a better 4th OF, it's putting KK in the actual 4th OF role, despite his salary
  24. John_Havok
    Nope. It's cuz Bassitt and Gausman said so.
  25. John_Havok
    I agree, but is there really a better 4th OF in all of MLB than KK? Getting paid way too much, granted...but as far as skills go, isn't he exactly what any team would want in a 4th OF?
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