Stanifer was a 19th round pick, the fact that he is even on the radar as a relief of SP6 prospect is promising.
Messina was a 12th rounder signed for $550k and was known the be injured. It's great to see him on the mound, healthy, and flashing some stuff. His walk rate is not alarming to me.
They NAILED the 2024 draft with Yesavage, Stephan, and then Johnny King. And then Messina and Troy Guthrie (a lower upside but somewhat interesting command - starter profile) later on.
It feels, to me, like the org is coming into its own when it comes to drafting and developing pitchers. But they still need to put the finishing touches on guys and that has often been the issue. That and keeping them healthy.
If you go from like 2023 backwards you can put together such a long, sad list of guys who were very promising, or at time looked like value draft picks, or were high draft picks, but either could not stay healthy or could never get over the MLB development bump or just sucked right away:
Landen Maroudis (2023)
Brandon Barriera (2022)
Connor Cooke (2021) briefly looked like a future RP Ace
Juenger
Irv Carter
Tiedeman
Hoglund
CJ Van Eyk (2020)
Manoah (2019)
Kendall Williams
Kloff (2018)
Joey Murray (2018)
Pearson (2017)
Hagen Danner (2017)
Zeuch (2016) ZOINKS!
Jon Harris (2015)
Justin Maese (2015)
Hoffman (2014)
SRF
Bickford (2013) and Hollon and Patrick Murphy
From 2020 on, you can understand because they were trading away lots of guys like Hoglund and there was some bad luck in there with Tiedeman and Barriera and some others. Also in the last few years lots of promise emerging, like Nolan Perry was a 2022 pick so the book is still open on most of these years. Barriera could still be a good reliever or something. Tiedemann just has to be a setup man to be worth it.
BUT in between say 2014 and 2019 it was very bad. Basically just produced Alek Manoah and he was an 11th overall pick which SHOULD be something, and even he could not stay healthy. Whiffed on a ton of first round arms. And the infamous run of Jon Harris and TJ Zeuch. Pearson never being a thing really hurt. Hoffman, flopped as a SP prospect. These were dark times.
They had some chops before that. Matt Boyd in 2013, Stroman the year before. Some other good picks sprinkled in here and there like Deslafani and Mayza and the huge 2010 draft with Sanchez and Syndergaard.