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No, you're not explaining "how it is". You're both trying to justify what the simple minded BlueJays do and furthermore you're attempting to project the archaic methodology across every team. This is not how it works. You have no clue.

Explain how this isn't 100% captured in data (flight path of the ball, result of the play, history of the players/peers all being present). So, in other words, force create a narrative that has no business being existing. This is exactly the type of garbage that is harmful.

You have literally no idea how saber inclined teams process scouting reports. Nor do you know what's in said reports. There's a pretty big philosophical difference between a team that has 1-2 MLB scouts and one that deems it wise to devote their entire pro scouting staff (which happens to be the largest in the business by a factor of like 5) to exclusive MLB coverage. Stop talking out of your ass for once.

Obviously true. I guess the other point is that scouts are neither in the position to make this assessment, nor are they in any way qualified to do so. It certainly doesn't stop them from trying though!

Human beings cannot do this. Physically, they can not do this. Almost 100% of the time the "reaction time/instincts" grade a scout puts on a player is a combination of their hands and raw athleticism as these are much easier to evaluate. It's about as well defined case of attribute substitution as you'll ever find (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribute_substitution). Scouts cannot grade reaction time and therefore they cannot grade range. And since range is far and away the most important factor in a player's ability to create outs defensively, defensive scouting reports are, at best, useless. At worst, harmful and drive bad decisions. Intellectual dishonesty at it's best. Do you really think a human being can track the path of a pitch better than automated systems like PitchFX, Trackman et al? This can't actually be what you think. As far as the injury stuff is concerned, how on Earth do you figure that something in this realm will show up in real life but not on video? Explain this to me now. And keep in mind, you're making the laughable mistake in thinking that MLB clubs only have the video provided by broadcasts. That's obviously not true and they have hours and hours of footage from multiple cameras for each game. More ********. You're being completely fooled by randomness. We don't need some low IQ, half in the bag idiot who's fighting off senility on one hand crafting up narratives as to why a player might be 1 for his last 10 in the other. There is literally no explanation required. Again, if it was something obvious, it would most definitely show up on video.

Exactly. To check in, cross check etc is obviously fine. But to have this drive evaluations at the MLB level is f***ing madness.

Not in the majors you sure as f*** don't. They're demonstrably worse than the "Marcels". Scouting above A+ is an unfathomable waste of resources.

No it doesn't. A) JPA's career wRC+ is 7% better. JPA's projected wRC+ is 15% better. You're a smart enough guy. You need to drop OPS.

Yan Gomes is basically JPA lite offensively.

Yah, he's OKish. A league average offensive player but below average defensively. I dunno, he's young enough that he could definitely still develop into something pretty good but he's not really there yet IMO. Certainly nothing for BC to hang his hat on.

I can't agree with this.

Most casuals I know just go with something along the lines of: "he just gave up prospects and they usually don't turrrnnn out hurrrrr"

Beeston is the only reason I think AA is essentially safe this year. But once that ********'s contract expires next year, all bets are off and barring something unforeseen, AA will be gone then too.

Hypothetical Question: How many losses would get The Fat Greek fired after this season? I know most of us, including myself, believe he has this year AND next to make the playoffs before the axe falling, but is there a point at which this becomes too embarrassing to come back from? 90 losses? 95? 100?

Snider's can't really be considered anything special right now but he could still be a useful MLB piece (like a Hinske or something just to throw a fat, white guy, ex LH Blue Jay comp out there). Brad Lincoln is probably just a RHR s*** bag.

You're bad at links.

Probably my favourite post of yours ever.

That's s dirty lie and you know it.

Rickey Romero is probably finished.

That's not fair at all. That's a 60 inning sample. That same year he only K'd 7.1/9 in AA. He was just never that good. Scouts are retarded lol.

I remember thinking similarly too. But the odds of being a good #3 with that demonstrated lack of ability to miss bats in the minors is pretty damn low.

For all his supposed STUFF, he never punched out a guy per inning in the minors. That basically precludes him from being a top line starter in the MLB. Even if he didn't walk twice more than he should. Honestly, his 2010 season in AA wasn't good. No idea how he was ranked as high as he was in prospect rankings. ERA and WINZ...f*** me.

Yah, we could use a 2nd closer!!! 1 righty, 1 lefty, 1 blackey, 1 whitey That's championship balance!!

This is what the season has come to. Rooting for specific injuries to open up a trade opp for us. How's the Rays fan club coming?

Clipping Aroldis' toe nails. Or something.