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Haven't seen much reaction to the Joc for Rengifo deal. I don't think much of Rengifo and Pederson is a solid 3 WAR guy with 2 yrs of control.

From a value perspective the Dodgers lost. If they extend Betts it will not be f'ing cheap. Betts is going to be looking at Trout's $450M deal and going hmmmmm. He won't get that but that's what he is looking at. From a team/winning perspective the Dodgers might be winners, or maybe not. Next several months will tell the tale!

He should be good for approx. the current average for an SP these days, about 175 innings.

4.01 FIP away from Dodger stadium for his career, 4.21 FIP last season. More to the point from the Twinkies perspective, Graterol only pitched 90 innings last season. They needed a guy that can handle starter workload in a year they are all in.

Wouldn't be shocking at all, but I understand why the Twins made the move. Dodgers are the big losers here, but hell, flags fly forever!

Maeda is under team control until after the 2024 season. They lost a few years of control, but strengthen the rotation for the their window of contention while JD and Nelson Cruz are elite.

Pederson to the Angels is interesting.... maybe they think Adell needs more seasoning.

So Verdugo, Graterol to Boston for 1 year of Betts, Price, and cash. Pretty good move for Boston.

mlbtraderumours says May is not involved

Twins are the 3rd team. My guess is Graterol to Boston, Ruiz+ to Twins.

Boston's #5 starter is now Hector Velazquez.

Dodgers team is fricking ridiculous now.

The upper body is shown in shadow, the chest of a lefthanded hitter in the crouch. If it was a righthanded hitter, we would be looking at the backside of the hitter which would be exposed to the sun.

CD for UK PM.

Left handed based on the light / shadow.

Prospectslive with their top 100 prospects today https://www.prospectslive.com/lists/2020/2/2/top-100-prospects-for-2020 5 Jays - Pearson #17, Groshans #46, Simeon Woods-Richardson #73, Alec Manoah #91, Orelvis Martinez #98

DiPoto says the Mariners are not averse to promoting J-Rod to MLB this year if he earns it. I'm looking forward to a Soto-Robles-J-Rod OF.

Current BA 2020 Draft Top 10. Jays draft 5th. The very interesting JT Ginn just outside the top 10, at #12. Dodgers pick out of high school that went to college. Spencer Torkelson Arizona State 1B Ht: 6-1 | Wt: 205 | B-T: R-R Commit/Drafted: Never Drafted Age At Draft: 20.8 One of the premier power bats in the country, Torkelson has top-of-the-scale raw power and terrific hitting ability to go along with it. He has a chance to go down as one of the better power hitters of college baseball’s BBCOR era after belting 25 homers as a freshman (which led the nation) and 23 more in his sophomore season. USA Baseball coaches were impressed with his defense and work ethic last summer with the Collegiate National Team, and Torkelson is athletic enough to play left field as well as first. Emerson Hancock Georgia RHP Ht: 6-4 | Wt: 215 | B-T: R-R Commit/Drafted: Diamondbacks '17 (38) Age At Draft: 21 A notable high school prospect out of Georgia in 2017, Hancock established himself as one of the best arms in college baseball during a tremendous sophomore season in 2019. He posted a 1.99 ERA—the eighth best mark in Georgia history—and led the SEC with a 0.84 WHIP while allowing one run or fewer in nine of his 14 starts. Hancock checks all the boxes of a typical frontline starting prospect, with a 6-foot-4, 213-pound frame and a four-pitch arsenal of pitches that all have plus potential. Austin Martin Vanderbilt SS Ht: 6-0 | Wt: 170 | B-T: R-R Commit/Drafted: Indians '17 (37) Age At Draft: 21.2 A first team All-American and Golden Spikes semifinalist after an outstanding sophomore season in which he hit .410/.503/.619 and was third in the country in hits, Martin is one of three favorites in the running for the No. 1 overall pick as a junior. Martin possesses some of the best pure hitting ability in the class, with eye-popping bat speed, and is trending in the right direction in terms of power. Defensively, Martin has the athleticism and hands to play anywhere on the field, but most of his reps have come at third base with Vanderbilt. Asa Lacy Texas A&M LHP Ht: 6-4 | Wt: 215 | B-T: L-L Commit/Drafted: Indians '17 (31) Age At Draft: 21.0 Lacy’s imposing demeanor and aggressive mentality on the mound endears him to scouts, but it's his package of plus pitches and track record in the SEC that make him the top lefthander in the class and give him a shot to be a top-five selection. Lacy posted a 2.13 ERA as a sophomore and allowed fewer hits per nine (4.97) than any pitcher in the country, thanks to a mid-90s fastball, wipeout slider and power curve. Nick Gonzales New Mexico State 2B Ht: 5-10 | Wt: 190 | B-T: R-R Commit/Drafted: Never Drafted Age At Draft: 21.1 Only five second basemen have been drafted among the top 10 picks this century, and Gonzales has the pure hitting ability to become the sixth. A freshman All-American after a .347/.425/.596 season with the Aggies, Gonzales took his offense to a new level last year, leading the country in hitting (.432) and ranking among the top five in major offensive categories like RBI (5th), runs (5th), on-base percentage (5th) and slugging (3rd). A loud summer in the Cape Cod League (seven home runs) with a wood bat only gave teams more conviction in his uniquely special bat. Jared Kelley Refugio (Texas) HS RHP Ht: 6-3 | Wt: 215 | B-T: R-R Commit/Drafted: Texas Age At Draft: 18.7 A man amongst boys in the high school class, Kelley is more physical than most prep pitchers—6-foot-3, 215 pounds—with more consistent fastball velocity—he regularly gets into the upper-90s—and remarkable control and command. Kelley pairs a swing-and-miss changeup with his fastball, and with improved consistency of a breaking ball, the Texas commit could be one of only a few high school prospects drafted among the top 10 picks. Austin Hendrick West Allegheny HS, Imperial, Pa. OF Ht: 6-1 | Wt: 192 | B-T: L-L Commit/Drafted: Mississippi State Age At Draft: 19.0 Is there a high school hitter in the 2020 class with a better hit and power combination than Hendrick? We don’t think so. The Pennsylvania product is likely a corner outfielder, but he has light tower raw power and some of the quickest bat speed scouts have seen in years. Hendrick has also shown the ability to quiet a previously noisy and unconventional swing in order to take more consistent at-bats against high-level pitching that he doesn’t see frequently with West Allegheny. He is a Mississippi State commit. Garrett Mitchell UCLA OF Ht: 6-3 | Wt: 204 | B-T: L-R Commit/Drafted: Athletics '17 (14) Age At Draft: 21.8 If you like tool sheds, you’ll like Garrett Mitchell. A high-profile prospect dating back to his prep days with Orange (Calif.) Lutheran High, Mitchell possesses the best package of tools in the 2020 class, with plus-plus running ability, plus arm strength, defense and raw power that some scouts are now citing as 70-grade juice. Mitchell has endlessly tweaked his swing throughout his amatuer career, but seemed to find his groove as a sophomore last season, when he hit .349/.418/.566 and led the country with 12 triples. Another strong offensive season could make Mitchell one of the first players drafted. Mick Abel Jesuit HS, Portland RHP Ht: 6-5 | Wt: 180 | B-T: R-R Commit/Drafted: Oregon State Age At Draft: 18.8 Vying to be the first prep arm out of Oregon drafted in the first round since 1994—when the Royals drafted lefthander and first baseman Matt Smith—Abel has a tantalizing combination of present stuff, future projection and pitchability. A 6-foot-5, 180-pound righthander, Abel has touched 97 mph at times with his fastball, but didn’t get to that regularly last summer. He also mixes in one of the better breaking balls of the amateur class, and has good feel for a changeup that could give him three plus offerings. Abel is committed to Oregon State. Carmen Mlodzinski South Carolina RHP Ht: 6-2 | Wt: 215 | B-T: R-R Commit/Drafted: Never Drafted Age At Draft: 21.3 The owner of a career 5.61 ERA over two abbreviated seasons (thanks to a foot injury) with South Carolina, Mlodzinski is much more than his SEC resume suggests. The 6-foot-2, 215-pound righthander saw his stuff take a big jump over the summer, where he was the best pitcher in the Cape Cod League. He’s got a mid-90s fastball that’s been up to 97-98 mph with heavy sinking action, as well as a slider, cutter and a changeup he improved during the fall. If he stays healthy and puts together an SEC season that his stuff suggests is possible, Mlodzinski could become the highest-drafted Gamecock arm of all time.

Looking at various website rankings, Syndergaard has the overall consensus edge over POhtani. As others have said, the deal is weighted heavily to the POhtani side. But who knows what POhtani does, he's still very much a wildcard (more than pitchers go). I know EZE rates POhtani very high. He could be right. Maybe some conditional compensation depending on performance is in order. Even overall rankings, where Ohtani value as both hitter and pitcher considered, Syndergaard comes out ahead in 2 of the 3 lists below (due to coming back from injury, no doubt). Pitcher Ranking Razzball - Syndergaard 36, Ohtani not yet ranked (>60) Rotoballer - Ohtani 24, Syndergaard 27 Fangraphs (Sporer) - Ohtani 43, Syndergaard 18 Fantrax - Syndergaard (Tier 5), Ohtani (Tier 7) Overall Ranking Fantasypros - Ohtani 45, Syndergaard 32 ESPN - Syndergaard 63, Ohtani 42 CBS - Ohtani 65, Syndergaard 51

Just two years older than me. He became the full time shortstop in the division winning 1985 year, when the entire province went baseball mad. Seemed like anything, and I mean anything, hit on the ground on the left side would be an out. He could contort himself to make ridiculous throws, always on the money.

Sure seems like the Jays are going to fill out the bullpen using the surplus collection of cost controlled, back end and depth SP types.

Question for head commish: When the move to Fantrax took place, I did not move Urias into minors. He was not elevated to MLB before the rosters were locked after last season. Can he be moved into a minors slot?

He's projected for 10-15 HR in 500 AB in 2020. That's about what Votto, Reddick, Moran, Miggy, and Vladito had in 2019 in 500 AB. Your comment he doesn't have any power is incorrect, sir.

ERPO are a thing in the USA. By your logic, the USA is a communist utopia.

23 HR in AAA/MLB last season