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In the end this comes down to the usual. Fans want bats. There are people here who want old bats who project for less wins than IKF who might have a slightly higher ceiling (bats can be protected a little by maximizing their best scenarios) but in the end this is equal or better value. It is a s***** free agent year and Jays need depth if they are going to delve into the trade market mid season or even next off season

He is $5M more than Espi. He is only $5.5M more than what we are paying DeJong. He is insurance. He may get 500 PA. That probably means that Barger, schnieder, Bo, Biggio sucked or got hurt. Not a good scenario but in the end it is likely Espi he is taking PAs away from. Espi still has options but also if they believe that last year's Santiago is the real player, maybe they just walk away

19 DRS and 22 OAA in 1200 innings at 3B. Those are elite 3B numbers

Anyone who wants the Jays to play one of the kids at 3B should love this. IKF is not going to block anyone. But his defensive numbers at 3B are elite. He also played thru injury last year, healthy he is still a bad bat, but less bad than last year

Cuban league MVP

Atkins M.O. would be floor over ceiling. Belli's floor is among the worst of the multi year contract guys, as he has already shown he can be well below replacement. He was a "blue jays target" because he was a free agent OF, we had a spot, and we had supposed previous interest. That interest was in a short term prove your worth deal. I would be absolutely shocked if there were legitimate talks.

I think he gave the Jays a number, and a deadline. If they didn't make that he would start talking to other teams. KK wanted to be a Jay again this year.

I would have went with obsessed

Likely, the error message today were just him taking a s***. I just want the Wamco and Spanky feud to end. This would do it

Fair If Spanky is wrong about IKF he is banned for life. I will give him an opportunity to tell us the terms and if he is right, you can never report, reply to, or mention Spanky again. Deal?

The Jays have zero interest in Bellinger, Bob Nightingale is a f***ing idiot with no knowledge of anything, except masturbating excessively because one Boras' lapdogs fed him a "hot tip"

The most positive part of this signing, after the fact that we get the dreamiest man in a baseball uniform back for 1 more year, is that it stops the Belli to Toronto talk. There were two splashes in this market, Jays didn't get either one, now all fans should be looking Laika's posts (I hate feeding his ego, but his off-season thoughts this year have been spot on), for the Jays moving forward. Contracts which increase our depth (Term used a phrase of "raise the floor" like all good lawyers he likely stole this phrase from someone much smarter than he), and improve us without impediment of the long term goals. I suspect a defensive first 3B is on its way and a short term deal on a bat who kills one side of platoon for OF/DH. Trade conversations stills need to happen, but they don't need to be made in the off-season

Roster spots are at a premium. Losing a player from the 40 for a guy that projects for just barely above replacement just doesn't make sense. If he's coming in on a minor league deal (a likely possibility for Fleming) then fine. But chances are pitchers are not seeing Toronto as a good destination for a minor league deal as there isn't a clear path for a roster spot

Players retirement fund just got $103M just on luxury tax alone. With the other $103M ($3.5M go towards player benefits) being split up by the Commissioners Discretionary Fund (which is split among the 22 non Luxury tax team using a mathematical formula based on who the commish likes best)

The Belli Boys about to get bad news

Off the record, but direct from a Rays coach to my my ears, there are players and coaches on the Rays who would be unhappy if Wander comes back. Person who said this gave nothing more about what the story is, but that makes me believe it is more than what any public story is telling.

Makes you wonder what the actual FA value of say a Skenes would be. There is no way I could see a team paying him half that even

And the only way the Dodgers could profit off that is to set up an official Dodgers store in Japan (and I am not 100% sure that is allowed as it states "in stadium" official merch store in the CBA.

I couldn't make it through all the misinformation to see if the correct info is here yet but my accounting degree at Fighting with people in TikTok comments U has led me to some research. 1. Dodgers must show proof every year that payments are made to a legal annuity (call this the Madoff rule), which would likely be Guggenheim. So they will pay $48M, or whatever that number was, every year of the contract. Essentially the deal is 10 years @ $50M per or so for them. thus this is their cap hit. there are currently 75 players receiving deferred money in the MLB. 2. For Ohtani he chose to get his deferred payments over 10 years likely because of this U.S. tax law. Residence can affect overall tax status Your federal tax obligations for deferred compensation will be the same regardless of where you live when you receive the money. However, where you live could have a significant impact on your state tax liability—if your payments are structured the right way. "Generally, deferred compensation is taxable in the state where the employee worked and earned the compensation, regardless of whether the employee moves after retirement," says David Walters of Palisades Hudson Financial Group in Portland, Oregon. "However, if the employee has elected to take the deferred compensation payments over a period of 10 years or more, the deferred compensation payments are taxed in the state of residence when the payments are made." This can make a big difference if you move to a state that has no state income tax, such as Florida, Washington or Nevada, or at least to one with a lower income tax than where you earned the money. source https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/tax-payments/strategies-for-managing-your-tax-bill-on-deferred-compensation/L83l5ousH some misinformation I have read. He will still pay the larger portion of tax which is Federal Tax. Moving only avoids state tax (I read $4.7M per year but have not verified this). He cannot move back to Japan to avoid this. He would have to have residency in another state. As I believe Dick said, his agents know how to work around this. The jays could do this. However there would be zero tax advantage to the player as our laws state that you pay your taxes based on where the income was earned.

And we can add High School Accounting Championships as a flex too

Add it to our Mods creed. Anyone quoting Morosi without a proper disclaimer, and any TwistedLogic support gets the death penalty

I think you are thinking of the poker player that we shall not name, who was the Manute Bol

You know Aberg has already said he would play LIV if he secured enough World Ranking points to play the majors. Hovland has never said he wouldn't play it either

Does anyone else feel like they were in a bad mystery movie? There was a series of coincidences which could only lead you in one direction...only to find out it was TwistedLogic with a leadpipe in the Redditverse! I mean we have a private flight to Toronto from the airport that Ohtani flies out of. We have Kikuchi's wife posting on insta out of Toronto for the first time, despite them living here all off season. It is her birthday and Yusei is a good husband who books a restuarant for 50 people. How does she even know 50 people in Toronto???? The ticket account reps all in training today and away from their phones making people believe they are training them for a huge rush. The front office staff being called in to work today for the first time in over a month. It is crazy and we never learn from our past mistakes. In the end I know I am probably a horrible person because this was fun for me. And who knows, maybe we can do it again next week

Well I don't think they were looking to secure prosecution, but I understand your point. Also please do not take my theory as factual in any way