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The list of winners…

 

AL catcher: Jonah Heim (1st Gold Glove)….finalists: Alejandro Kirk, Adley Rutschman

AL first base: Nathaniel Lowe (1st)….finalists: Ryan Mountcastle, Anthony Rizzo

AL second base: Andres Gimenez (2nd)….finalists: Mauricio Dubon, Marcus Semien

AL third base: Matt Chapman (4th)….finalists: Alex Bregman, Jose Ramirez

AL shortstop: Anthony Volpe (1st)….finalists: Carlos Correa, Corey Seager

AL left field: Steven Kwan (2nd)….finalists: Austin Hays, Daulton Varsho

AL center field: Kevin Kiermaier (4th)….finalists: Luis Robert Jr., Julio Rodriguez

AL right field: Adolis Garcia (1st)….finalists: Kyle Tucker, Alex Verdugo

AL pitcher: Jose Berrios (1st)….finalists: Sonny Gray, Pablo Lopez

AL utility: Mauricio Dubon (1st)….finalists: Zach McKinstry, Taylor Walls

 

 

NL catcher: Gabriel Moreno (1st)….finalists: Patrick Bailey, J.T. Realmuto

NL first base: Christian Walker (2nd)….finalists: Freddie Freeman, Carlos Santana

NL second base: Nico Hoerner (1st)….finalists: Ha-Seong Kim, Bryson Stott

NL third base: Ke’Bryan Hayes (1st)….finalists: Ryan McMahon, Austin Riley

NL shortstop: Dansby Swanson (2nd)….finalists: Francisco Lindor, Ezequiel Tovar

NL left field: Ian Happ (2nd)….finalists: David Peralta, Eddie Rosario

NL center field: Brenton Doyle (1st)….finalists: Michael Harris II, Alek Thomas

NL right field: Fernando Tatis Jr. (1st)….finalists: Mookie Betts, Lane Thomas

NL pitcher: Zack Wheeler (1st)….finalists: Jesus Luzardo, Taijuan Walker

NL utility: Ha-Seong Kim (1st)….finalists: Mookie Betts, Tommy Edman

 

Pleased to see three Blue Jays win gold gloves, but how in the hell did Steven Kwan beat out Varsho.

Are these people looking at statistics at all? What metric tells them Kwan is better?

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The list of winners…

 

AL catcher: Jonah Heim (1st Gold Glove)….finalists: Alejandro Kirk, Adley Rutschman

AL first base: Nathaniel Lowe (1st)….finalists: Ryan Mountcastle, Anthony Rizzo

AL second base: Andres Gimenez (2nd)….finalists: Mauricio Dubon, Marcus Semien

AL third base: Matt Chapman (4th)….finalists: Alex Bregman, Jose Ramirez

AL shortstop: Anthony Volpe (1st)….finalists: Carlos Correa, Corey Seager

AL left field: Steven Kwan (2nd)….finalists: Austin Hays, Daulton Varsho

AL center field: Kevin Kiermaier (4th)….finalists: Luis Robert Jr., Julio Rodriguez

AL right field: Adolis Garcia (1st)….finalists: Kyle Tucker, Alex Verdugo

AL pitcher: Jose Berrios (1st)….finalists: Sonny Gray, Pablo Lopez

AL utility: Mauricio Dubon (1st)….finalists: Zach McKinstry, Taylor Walls

 

 

NL catcher: Gabriel Moreno (1st)….finalists: Patrick Bailey, J.T. Realmuto

NL first base: Christian Walker (2nd)….finalists: Freddie Freeman, Carlos Santana

NL second base: Nico Hoerner (1st)….finalists: Ha-Seong Kim, Bryson Stott

NL third base: Ke’Bryan Hayes (1st)….finalists: Ryan McMahon, Austin Riley

NL shortstop: Dansby Swanson (2nd)….finalists: Francisco Lindor, Ezequiel Tovar

NL left field: Ian Happ (2nd)….finalists: David Peralta, Eddie Rosario

NL center field: Brenton Doyle (1st)….finalists: Michael Harris II, Alek Thomas

NL right field: Fernando Tatis Jr. (1st)….finalists: Mookie Betts, Lane Thomas

NL pitcher: Zack Wheeler (1st)….finalists: Jesus Luzardo, Taijuan Walker

NL utility: Ha-Seong Kim (1st)….finalists: Mookie Betts, Tommy Edman

 

Pleased to see three Blue Jays win gold gloves, but how in the hell did Steven Kwan beat out Varsho.

Are these people looking at statistics at all? What metric tells them Kwan is better?

 

Without looking, Kwan probably has more games/innings in LF and that’s why the voters chose him. Guys that split time between 2 positions (even being elite at both…) are often skipped over

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It's funny that LF/CF players don't get nominated for the utility category

 

Like, is there that much difference between that and being a 3B/SS or whatever

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It's funny that LF/CF players don't get nominated for the utility category

 

Like, is there that much difference between that and being a 3B/SS or whatever

 

More differences on the infield than between LF/CF. Dubon winning makes sense. Mookie probably should have won in the NL though. Maybe his stats don’t look good on the infield

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So they should’ve had 4 GGs. Now they just need to sign Inspector Gadget to catch those Royce Lewis HR balls so they can win games scoring 1 run.
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It's funny that LF/CF players don't get nominated for the utility category

 

Like, is there that much difference between that and being a 3B/SS or whatever

 

Wow. Aren’t you supposed to be smart? There’s a huge difference. How many OF errors are there? Most plays are of the routine variety, with only a small % of balls being a max effort/difficult play. IF has two parts to their job, with throws always being part of it. They’re dealing with 100mph+ rips that will differentiate good fielders from bad at a much higher rate than OF

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This isn't to start another Moreno discussion but Patrick Bailey was absolutely robbed. Luckily it is just an award to keep up the mentions and views in the off-season
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More differences on the infield than between LF/CF. Dubon winning makes sense. Mookie probably should have won in the NL though. Maybe his stats don’t look good on the infield

 

So what is the criteria for the UTIL award?

 

Is it being a good defender that happens to play a couple positions, or is it being a competent defender that can play a bizarre spread of positions?

 

I still don't get what MLB is going for with it.

 

Daulton Varsho was 8th in the AL in Fangraphs defensive value and #1 among qualified outfielders. He seems to be exactly the type of overseen player that the UTIL gold glove was supposed to find and reward.

Community Moderator
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Wow. Aren’t you supposed to be smart? There’s a huge difference. How many OF errors are there? Most plays are of the routine variety, with only a small % of balls being a max effort/difficult play. IF has two parts to their job, with throws always being part of it. They’re dealing with 100mph+ rips that will differentiate good fielders from bad at a much higher rate than OF

 

stfu, meathead

Posted
Did varsho get penalized for being a terrible hitter? Is that a thing? Never heard of Steven Kwan but assume he is at least positive ops
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Did varsho get penalized for being a terrible hitter? Is that a thing? Never heard of Steven Kwan but assume he is at least positive ops

 

Brenton Doyle won, so it appears they are no longer penalizing players for being s***** hitters (which they seemingly have in the past). Doyle is one of the worst hitters in recent memory to get 425+ PA's. Great fielder though.

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