General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2023)

[connorp]

Bro it's JP Morosi. His tweets mean nothing.

 

Atkins kicks the tired on literal every free agent and trade possibility.

 

I’m sure most GMs do, without being attention whores

[Laika]

True that. Chapman can stay gone though.

 

I agree. Not feeling any of the long-term 3B options at all so unless there is something in trade I would just cheap out and get some slap hitter 1 year stop gap.

Maybe hope a prospect can take the position.

Spend a bit for quality 1 year veterans at LF or DH. Maybe even a multi-year quality veteran at LF...

[wilko]

Candelario would be super underwhelming and probably gets three years. Please no

 

A 2 year deal wouldn't be the worst thing.

[RobinThicc]

[Krylian]

 

So Jays are in on everyone? Sounds familiar.

[Jimcanuck]

another meaningless tweet

[wilko]

[Laika]

bring him home!

 

(don't actually bring him home)

[Frenchsoup]

What's ur off-season plan to address 3b

[MikeM3]

Avoid Candelario

[Frenchsoup]

I'd be down with JD won't mess you up defensively, should be fairly cheap

[Frenchsoup]

Candy's a pretty pure hitter but lots of suitors

[connorp]

Candy's a pretty pure hitter but lots of suitors

 

Did you ever come close to dropping the soap? It’s an honest question. Most of us just have Hollywood to go by

[BigCecil]

another meaningless tweet

 

Yep. This time of the year is the worst. Even worse than Spring training. Endless meaningless rumors, empty quotes and speculation.

[Jimcanuck]

What's ur off-season plan to address 3b

 

Orelvis

[MikeM3]

Crawford/Solano platoon = 3 war

[glory]

Yep. This time of the year is the worst. Even worse than Spring training. Endless meaningless rumors, empty quotes and speculation.

 

Aka Morosi’s entire existence.

[G-Snarls]

Josh Donaldson wRC+ from 2020-2023:

 

132

126

98

78

[Spanky99]

The Jays should just go hard in the paint on Yamamoto and go in-house with some of these positions and pick up platoon bats. The bats available are slim and frankly not worth it. Do we know who's available via trade at 3rd base?

[Omar]

The Jays should just go hard in the paint on Yamamoto and go in-house with some of these positions and pick up platoon bats. The bats available are slim and frankly not worth it. Do we know who's available via trade at 3rd base?

 

Let the JRam rumours begin:p

[Spanky99]

Let the JRam rumours begin:p

 

Heh... dude loves Ohio!

[G-Snarls]

Let the JRam rumours begin:p

 

I want him so bad but sounds like he just really wants to stay in Cleveland:

 

https://www.si.com/mlb/bluejays/news/blue-jays-jose-ramirez-trade-guardians-extension

 

In the final days of 2022 spring training, approaching an imposed deadline for extension talks while Toronto and San Diego ramped up trade efforts, Ramírez pushed to stay with the Guardians.

 

Ramírez's agent, Rafa Nieves of Republik Sports, told Gonzalez he and others tried to talk the Cleveland infielder out of taking the well below market value deal he eventually signed.

 

"He knows that he left money on the table," Gonzalez reports Nieves said. "But he says, '$150 million or $200 million, my life is gonna be the same. I'm happier with $150 million in Cleveland than $200 million somewhere else.'"

 

Toronto's interest in Ramírez was long-reported, dating back to at least midseason 2021. Touching on the days leading up to Ramírez's eventual extension, Sportsnet's Jeff Blair adds that industry sources told him "three of Randal Grichuk, Cavan Biggio, Alejandro Kirk and Pearson would have been the package" sent to Cleveland for Ramírez.

 

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Interesting article with more details than I knew were out there. He has full no trade clause according to Sportrac.

[wilko]

I want him so bad but sounds like he really wants to stay in Cleveland:

 

https://www.si.com/mlb/bluejays/news/blue-jays-jose-ramirez-trade-guardians-extension

 

In the final days of 2022 spring training, approaching an imposed deadline for extension talks while Toronto and San Diego ramped up trade efforts, Ramírez pushed to stay with the Guardians.

 

Ramírez's agent, Rafa Nieves of Republik Sports, told Gonzalez he and others tried to talk the Cleveland infielder out of taking the well below market value deal he eventually signed.

 

"He knows that he left money on the table," Gonzalez reports Nieves said. "But he says, '$150 million or $200 million, my life is gonna be the same. I'm happier with $150 million in Cleveland than $200 million somewhere else.'"

 

Toronto's interest in Ramírez was long-reported, dating back to at least midseason 2021. Touching on the days leading up to Ramírez's eventual extension, Sportsnet's Jeff Blair adds that industry sources told him "three of Randal Grichuk, Cavan Biggio, Alejandro Kirk and Pearson would have been the package" sent to Cleveland for Ramírez.

 

Interesting article with more details than I knew were out there

 

It sounds like he's afraid of change. He's used to the city, the team/front office. I bet he will try and play his entire career there.

[G-Snarls]

It sounds like he's afraid of change. He's used to the city, the team/front office. I bet he will try and play his entire career there.

 

Seems like it...

[Spanky99]

JRams a non conversation, fellas. Pretty cut and dry there.

[Frenchsoup]

JD baby, former MVP with the heart of a lion

[MikeM3]

The Jays should just go hard in the paint on Yamamoto and go in-house with some of these positions and pick up platoon bats. The bats available are slim and frankly not worth it. Do we know who's available via trade at 3rd base?

 

Seems like best bang for your buck in the upper tier is Yamamoto. I agree

[Krylian]

Josh Donaldson wRC+ from 2020-2023:

 

132

126

98

78

 

So 58 in 2024?

[Spanky99]

Seems like best bang for your buck in the upper tier is Yamamoto. I agree

 

It kind of stares at you for this team.

[glory]

The Jays should just go hard in the paint on Yamamoto and go in-house with some of these positions and pick up platoon bats. The bats available are slim and frankly not worth it. Do we know who's available via trade at 3rd base?

 

Yeah this is not the market to go with multi year deals on non-Ohtani position player free agents, so if the Jays intend on making a "big splash", then Yamamoto (if Ohtani signs elsewhere) is the way to go. Then fill in the cracks with internal options or one year deals.