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PTBNL is a list of 4,5,6, or 99 names. The other team give you time to evaluate a pick one of those names

 

4 pitchers then

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It's not a secret. It's usually the team has a list of players to pick from by a certain date.

 

Julian Merryweather's name leaked last year but don't most PTBNL lists stay out of the public's knowledge?

 

I understand not wanting your players to know they were on a PTBNL list but the whole practice is stupid. Just pick the players to trade and have them move organizations that day.

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The fact that the Jays turned a player like Sogard into actual value on the market is a win for the organization.
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I'm super interested in what this return actually is. Hoping these names come out sooner rather than months later.
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Wouldn't it be funny if they get a better return on Sogard than we did.

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Wouldn't it be funny if they get a better return on Sogard than we did.

 

yeah that would be hilarious.

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The fact that the Jays turned a player like Sogard into actual value on the market is a win for the organization.

 

We needed a success story after all the poor returns we have received.

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Man, if the Rays flip Sogard for better value than what they gave up literally a day or two after trading for him, then that would be embarrassing. Not surprising though. The Rays know talent better than almost every other team.
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I can't see the Rays getting much of a better return for Sogard, even if we don't know the players we recieved.

 

That doesn't make sense, but I'll stick with it.

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Man, if the Rays flip Sogard for better value than what they gave up literally a day or two after trading for him, then that would be embarrassing. Not surprising though. The Rays know talent better than almost every other team.

 

and no doubt you guys will rip the s*** out of Atkins based on your evaluations of a couple of C+ 40 FV prospects that you know next to nothing about.

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and no doubt you guys will rip the s*** out of Atkins based on your evaluations of a couple of C+ 40 FV prospects that you know next to nothing about.

 

So you wouldn’t be annoyed at the Rays flipping Sogard? f*** off.

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I can't see the Rays getting much of a better return for Sogard, even if we don't know the players we recieved.

 

That doesn't make sense, but I'll stick with it.

 

I just don’t see the point of the Rays trading two prospects for Sogard and then flipping him immediately if they were going to get equal or less value for him than what they gave up. Either they are keeping him or they feel like they can move him for something better. Otherwise why else make the deal from their perspective?

 

Another possibility is they were contacted by teams the moment the trade happened and then realized they could move him for value. Who really knows.

 

We will have to wait and see what the Jays get first.

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Our desired prospects in a Sogard trade could be way different than the Rays. So we could get younger, long shot types and they would trade Sogard for a 25 year old RP or something.

 

That's also possible. The Jays and Rays are on two different paths so a player closer to the Majors (or already in the Majors) would have more value to the Rays than lottery tickets in low A.

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So you wouldn’t be annoyed at the Rays flipping Sogard? f*** off.

 

A slow-to-develop 3 team trade would not annoy me, no.

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I just don’t see the point of the Rays trading two prospects for Sogard and then flipping him immediately if they were going to get equal or less value for him than what they gave up. Either they are keeping him or they feel like they can move him for something better. Otherwise why else make the deal from their perspective?

 

Another possibility is they were contacted by teams the moment the trade happened and then realized they could move him for value. Who really knows.

 

We will have to wait and see what the Jays get first.

 

They could be looking for position players and would rather give up a couple of the pitching prospects to get them.

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So you wouldn’t be annoyed at the Rays flipping Sogard? f*** off.

 

Sorry - no I wouldn't be. I understand that teams value players differently and that teams are on different win curves, which effects their valuations.

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Eric Sogard's tenure with the Jays was quite enjoyable and a big part of me wishes it could last longer. Maybe we can sign him in the offseason again.
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Eric Sogard's tenure with the Jays was quite enjoyable and a big part of me wishes it could last longer. Maybe we can sign him in the offseason again.

 

And trade him again next deadline.

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Eric Sogard's tenure with the Jays was quite enjoyable and a big part of me wishes it could last longer. Maybe we can sign him in the offseason again.

 

Touche. He's a prime example of why they always say there's absolutely nothing wrong with a minor league deal with an invite to camp.....ever once in awhile, you land a Sogard.

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Touche. He's a prime example of why they always say there's absolutely nothing wrong with a minor league deal with an invite to camp.....ever once in awhile, you land a Sogard.

 

His wife is very hot, also

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His wife is very hot, also

 

See what being a millionaire can do for you...

 

And Sogard was a very smart signing. He had a great year in Milwaukee when healthy and is aging well. I say smart...might have been lucky.

He was awesome with his role on this team, a nice lead off option that we would have otherwise been missing.

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