2018 Baseball America Farm System rankings. Jays are ranked 7th

[Ray]

1. Atlanta Braves

2017: 1 | 2016: 3 | 2015: 29 | 2014: 26 | 2013: 2

 

2. New York Yankees

2017: 3 | 2016: 16 | 2015: 19 | 2014: 18 | 2013: 11

 

3. San Diego Padres

2017: 9 | 2016: 25 | 2015: 14 | 2014: 6 | 2013: 15

 

4. Chicago White Sox

2017: 5 | 2016: 23 | 2015: 20 | 2014: 24 | 2013: 29

 

5. Tampa Bay Rays

2017: 11 | 2016: 13 | 2015: 17 | 2014: 20 | 2013: 4

 

6. Philadelphia Phillies

2017: 6 | 2016: 8 | 2015: 22 | 2014: 22 | 2013: 23

 

7. Toronto Blue Jays

2017: 20 | 2016: 24 | 2015: 9 | 2014: 15 | 2013: 12

 

8. Los Angeles Dodgers

2017: 2 | 2016: 1 | 2015: 3 | 2014: 14 | 2013: 19

 

9. Cincinnati Reds

2017: 13 | 2016: 12 | 2015: 16 | 2014: 16 | 2013: 14

 

10. Houston Astros

2017: 4 | 2016: 2 | 2015: 10 | 2014: 5 | 2013: 9

 

11. Milwaukee Brewers

2017: 8 | 2016: 9 | 2015: 21 | 2014: 29 | 2013: 22

 

12. Minnesota Twins

2017: 22 | 2016: 10 | 2015: 2 | 2014: 3 | 2013: 10

 

13. St. Louis Cardinals

2017: 12 | 2016: 14 | 2015: 15 | 2014: 7 | 2013: 1

 

14. Los Angeles Angels

2017: 30 | 2016: 30 | 2015: 27 | 2014: 30 | 2013: 18

 

15. Washington Nationals

2017: 19 | 2016: 5 | 2015: 12 | 2014: 21 | 2013: 16

 

16. Pittsburgh Pirates

2017: 7 | 2016: 11 | 2015: 7 | 2014: 1 | 2013: 8

 

17. Baltimore Orioles

2017: 27 | 2016: 27 | 2015: 28 | 2014: 12 | 2013: 17

 

18. Oakland Athletics

2017: 17 | 2016: 18 | 2015: 19 | 2014: 23 | 2013: 25

 

19. Miami Marlins

2017: 29 | 2016: 29 | 2015: 25 | 2014: 27 | 2013: 5

 

20. Colorado Rockies

2017: 10 | 2016: 6 | 2015: 8 | 2014: 11 | 2013: 20

 

21. Detroit Tigers

2017: 25 | 2016: 26 | 2015: 30 | 2014: 28 | 2013: 27

 

22. Cleveland Indians

2017: 18 | 2016: 17 | 2015: 23 | 2014: 17 | 2013: 24

 

23. Texas Rangers

2017: 23 | 2016: 7 | 2015: 11 | 2014: 9| 2013: 3

 

24. Boston Red Sox

2017: 14 | 2016: 4 | 2015: 5 | 2014: 2 | 2013: 6

 

25. Arizona Diamondbacks

2017: 28 | 2016: 22 | 2015: 6 | 2014: 13 | 2013: 7

 

26. San Francisco Giants

2017: 24 | 2016: 19 | 2015: 26 | 2014: 19 | 2013: 28

 

27. New York Mets

2017: 15 | 2016: 15 | 2015: 4 | 2014: 10 | 2013: 26

 

28. Chicago Cubs

2017: 16 | 2016: 20 | 2015: 1 | 2014: 4 | 2013: 13

 

29. Kansas City Royals

2017: 26 | 2016: 21 | 2015: 13 | 2014: 8 | 2013: 18

 

30. Seattle Mariners

2017: 21 | 2016: 28 | 2015: 24 | 2014: 25 | 2013: 2

 

Link: https://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2018-organizational-talent-rankings/#vMwaItRf6lCedGAB.97

[Dr. Dinger]

Really, the Rays ahead of us? I dunno about that. Vlad + Bo + Alford > Honeywell + Adames + whatever else they got.

[Dr. Dinger]

Meh, McKay and Sanchez... I'd take Vlad & Bo over literally their entire system.

[jays4life19]

Really, the Rays ahead of us? I dunno about that. Vlad + Bo + Alford > Honeywell + Adames + whatever else they got.

 

They have quite a bit more depth and like 6 top 100 prospects where the Jay's have like 4.

[Dr. Dinger]

They have quite a bit more depth and like 6 top 100 prospects where the Jay's have like 4.

 

Farm depth is overrated, very few of them will ever be meaningful players. Congrats on your 4th OFs and relief pitchers, I'll keep my two all-stars.

[Ray]

Farm depth is overrated, very few of them will ever be meaningful players. Congrats on your 4th OFs and relief pitchers, I'll keep my two all-stars.

 

When your two all stars get injured, you need to have viable depth to be able to fill in for them.

[Orgfiller]

Impressive transition for the Angels. Obviously signing Ohtani and Maitan helped a lot, but the emergence of Adell, Jahmai Jones and Brandon Marsh really helped solidify their position.

[Dr. Dinger]

When your two all stars get injured, you need to have viable depth to be able to fill in for them.

 

If your two franchise cornerstones are hurt, your season is a write-off anyway. MLB depth is easily acquired, franchise players are not.

[Orgfiller]

If your two franchise cornerstones are hurt, your season is a write-off anyway. MLB depth is easily acquired, franchise players are not.

 

A lot of it is also proximity. A bunch of the Rays' top guys are at AA or AAA, while Bo and Vlad are 19 and 18 respectively having played their highest level at A+.

[Dr. Dinger]

A lot of it is also proximity. A bunch of the Rays' top guys are at AA or AAA, while Bo and Vlad are 19 and 18 respectively having played their highest level at A+.

 

Honeywell's proximity is kind of a farce, he should have been called up last season but the Rays decided to fudge his service time instead of pushing for a wildcard spot when they actually were within striking distance.

[Orgfiller]

Honeywell's proximity is kind of a farce, he should have been called up last season but the Rays decided to fudge his service time instead of pushing for a wildcard spot when they actually were within striking distance.

 

Uh, okay so that just means he's just that much closer lol. Doesn't take away his prospect status. He's probably only second to Ohtani in MLB ready prospect status, and it could be argued that he has an edge due to the culture change stuff.

[Dr. Dinger]

Uh, okay so that just means he's just that much closer lol. Doesn't take away his prospect status. He's probably only second to Ohtani in MLB ready prospect status, and it could be argued that he has an edge due to the culture change stuff.

 

You know I love Honeywell, but not a goddamn chance would I trade Vlad or even Bo for him, proximity be damned.

[Orgfiller]

You know I love Honeywell, but not a goddamn chance would I trade Vlad or even Bo for him, proximity be damned.

 

I wouldn't trade him for Vlad either but you could make a strong case moving him for Bo would be sensible. It's still not just Honeywell though, the Rays are pretty stacked.

[jaysfan2014]

Too bad Tampa's in payroll cutting mode, and even with these young players, most of the veterans(Archer, Colome, Dickerson) will likely be dealt for more prospects soon.. as the franchise continues to languish and still isn't close to getting a new stadium..

[Dr. Dinger]

I wouldn't trade him for Vlad either but you could make a strong case moving him for Bo would be sensible. It's still not just Honeywell though, the Rays are pretty stacked.

 

I don't think they are more stacked than us. Bichette is way better than Adames, Alford is equal to Sanchez, Pearson is as good as any pitcher they have behind Honeywell. McKay might be a two-way but only 50 OFP at both, not really that exciting at the moment. Vlad beats them all into pulp tho.

[jaysfan2014]

Boston at #24 is no surprise--with all the graduations, Boston is going to end up having to make some hard decisions in the next year or two, as much of their core is approaching free agency.

 

Kimbrel, Kelly, Pomeranz and HanRam are free agents at season's end--and in Kimbrel and Pomeranz's sake, they could be well beyond what Boston can afford--though getting rid of HanRam would actually be a positive, as he's basically useless at this point in his career--eventually, Michael Chavis will likely take over the 1B job (or 3B if Devers does not last at the position due to defense). Losing Pomeranz, Kelly and Kimbrel WILL hurt--as they have little pitching depth in the system, as much of it was dealt away.

 

2019 is the real cliff--Porcello, Sale and Bogaerts are gone after that season, and Sale could command $30-35M+/year if he stays healthy.. and it's not certain the Red Sox ownership will give that kind of money, even being a tax-paying team, as by the end of 2019, they will once again approach the 50% penalty on the luxury tax.

 

The only real prospect in the system is Jay Groome.. and he's still a lottery ticket at this point. Most of the rest of the system doesn't project to be MLB regulars at this point.

[Spanky99]

Sooo are Org ranks so far...

 

BA - 7th

MLB - 8th

K-Law - 17th *lulz*

BP - Likely 10-12 as they're usually Pitcher heavy.

[sdyment]

Boston at #24 is no surprise--with all the graduations, Boston is going to end up having to make some hard decisions in the next year or two, as much of their core is approaching free agency.

 

Kimbrel, Kelly, Pomeranz and HanRam are free agents at season's end--and in Kimbrel and Pomeranz's sake, they could be well beyond what Boston can afford--though getting rid of HanRam would actually be a positive, as he's basically useless at this point in his career--eventually, Michael Chavis will likely take over the 1B job (or 3B if Devers does not last at the position due to defense). Losing Pomeranz, Kelly and Kimbrel WILL hurt--as they have little pitching depth in the system, as much of it was dealt away.

 

2019 is the real cliff--Porcello, Sale and Bogaerts are gone after that season, and Sale could command $30-35M+/year if he stays healthy.. and it's not certain the Red Sox ownership will give that kind of money, even being a tax-paying team, as by the end of 2019, they will once again approach the 50% penalty on the luxury tax.

 

The only real prospect in the system is Jay Groome.. and he's still a lottery ticket at this point. Most of the rest of the system doesn't project to be MLB regulars at this point.

 

My schadenfreude is getting a semi...

[jaysfan2014]

Atlanta at #1--well deserved. Especially with Ronald Acuna in the system, who will likely be up by May (likely to be kept down for a few weeks for service time issues.) and all those pitching prospects. Now if they could start winning at the MLB level.. but they're likely looking at 2019 for contention, when the Nats go in a significant decline when Harper leaves via free agency, Mets are still a joke, and who knows about Philly.. and of course, the Marlins are going to be bad for some time..

[TheHurl]

Really, the Rays ahead of us? I dunno about that. Vlad + Bo + Alford > Honeywell + Adames + whatever else they got.

 

Fantasy wise it's 100% true. Real baseball life, having multiple players (some with pretty big ceilings too) is pretty valuable. Especially a team like the Rays who are never going to be able to get their 3+ WAR players in free agency (not that the Jays chase that either). I mean if you think Vlad and Bo are going to be Trout and Altuve, no farm is going to compare even if they have 15 50 grades. Now if they end up Sano and Trea Turner (two very nice assets that probably have not reached their peak) it's a different story.

[P2F]

I don't think they are more stacked than us. Bichette is way better than Adames, Alford is equal to Sanchez, Pearson is as good as any pitcher they have behind Honeywell. McKay might be a two-way but only 50 OFP at both, not really that exciting at the moment. Vlad beats them all into pulp tho.

 

We don't have Tobias Myers, bro.

[SaskJaysFan_2]

I hate the f***ing Yankees. Young studs everywhere on the MLB roster and they still have an amazing farm system.

 

I've underrated Cashman and company. After the sell off they did very, very well.

[TheHurl]

I hate the f***ing Yankees. Young studs everywhere on the MLB roster and they still have an amazing farm system.

 

I've underrated Cashman and company. After the sell off they did very, very well.

 

I think it's pretty obvious now that Cashman, at points in his career had to deal with a very different ownership style.

[BlueJayWay]

I hate the f***ing Yankees. Young studs everywhere on the MLB roster and they still have an amazing farm system.

 

I've underrated Cashman and company. After the sell off they did very, very well.

Yeah. It sucks that, while the Jays are ranked 7th in all of MLB, two of the six teams in front of them are in their own division...and one of those is the freaking Yankees, who are already good at the major league level. Gah.