What is the purpose of having replay?

[Slade]

Do you have the video or a screenshot of the angle that showed him safe? I thought he was safe before the replay and after I saw it I didn't see anything that was conclusive enough to overturn.

[Spanky99]

Typical response when you're wrong, not surprised.

 

He was out man... no camera had conclusive evidence he was safe, slow down man. The play was originally called out, there wasn't anything conclusive, you call him out and move on.

[Spanky99]

Sorry Grant, but this thread should be chucked in the garbage.

[Grant77]

He was out man... no camera had conclusive evidence he was safe, slow down man.

 

The Jays camera obviously did. I get that you guys may not have had the best angles, but when I pause it and see his foot on the base and the ball isn't in the glove, how can you expect any other conclusion? There isn't any question Spanky. He was safe, period.

 

If you want to call me an outright liar after years of being honest with you then you can go f*** yourself. You don't deserve any further respect from me if that's your stance.

[Spanky99]

The Jays camera obviously did. I get that you guys may not have had the best angles, but when I pause it and see his foot on the base and the ball isn't in the glove, how can you expect any other conclusion? There isn't any question Spanky. He was safe, period.

 

If you want to call me an outright liar after years of being honest with you then you can go f*** yourself. You'll have an easier time convincing me that 1+1 is 3. It was that clear.

 

Where is this footage? The entire rule is sketchy, once the ball is in the glove etc, I wouldn't call that conclusive. If they had a sensor in the gloves and bases, I might agree, it's far from perfect, yet much better than this league ever had? The replay serves its purpose. You have to remember, they always fall back on the original call.

 

P.S. I'm not calling you a liar, nor am I answering 3, it just wasn't as clear as you think, bringing in all factors.

[Spanky99]

Do you have the video or a screenshot of the angle that showed him safe? I thought he was safe before the replay and after I saw it I didn't see anything that was conclusive enough to overturn.

 

This, you have that Grant? Or is it your word?

[BigCecil]

This thread is funny. Pillar was out. Andrus was out. We won 10-1. The end. Lock thread.

[King]

If you want to call me an outright liar after years of being honest with you then you can go f*** yourself. You don't deserve any further respect from me if that's your stance.

lmao

[Slade]

As we talk about this 2 replay calls in Cleveland are bang on.

[Spanky99]

In my belief, replay has done better for ball, it's nowhere near as good as it should be, but... do we go back to old skool s***. I'm sure it's going to get better.

[Boxcar]

This, you have that Grant? Or is it your word?

 

fish in a barrel....

[John_Havok]

Yep, and one is the exact thin that NJH was talking about, the guy was called safe and then overturned because he lost contact with the bag as he slid past.

 

I honestly don't have an issue with that either because it's actually in the rule book that you have to maintain contact with the bag, and if you come off you can be tagged out. It makes a great slide into a base more of a skill than just trying to beat the initial throw and then continue on sliding wherever your momentum takes you.

[Spanky99]

This thread is funny. Pillar was out. Andrus was out. We won 10-1. The end. Lock thread.

 

Hence my "thread is unnecessary" I was called a bit though, my point needs to be addressed.

[Boxcar]

This thread is funny. Pillar was out. Andrus was out. We won 10-1. The end. Lock thread.

 

No one has validated Grant's obviously and objectively true opinion yet, though. Don't come in here with your trivial points, keep the thread on topic and tell Grant that he's correct as always.

[Boxcar]

Yep, and one is the exact thin that NJH was talking about, the guy was called safe and then overturned because he lost contact with the bag as he slid past.

 

I honestly don't have an issue with that either because it's actually in the rule book that you have to maintain contact with the bag, and if you come off you can be tagged out. It makes a great slide into a base more of a skill than just trying to beat the initial throw and then continue on sliding wherever your momentum takes you.

 

Yeah I agree with Ripken on that one.

 

omg Benintendi cut off his gorgeous locks

[John_Havok]

Yeah I agree with Ripken on that one.

 

omg Benintendi cut off his gorgeous locks

 

Yeah they say the entire Boston team did (well.... the ones with hair...) to try and get their hair cut the same way as Ortiz as a tribute in the final regular season game or something

 

Not sure Hanley did though

[Spanky99]

fish in a barrel....

 

lol

[Spanky99]

fish in a barrel....

 

I don't know why I bothered.

[John_Havok]

I don't know why I bothered.

 

Yes you do, because it's fun

[Spanky99]

lmao

 

Yeah, that was f***ed up.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Mod's lock this thread up tight... It's kill'n my buzz!!!

 

Go Jays Go!!!

 

f*** you Texas!!!

[Spanky99]

Yes you do, because it's fun

 

I'm not getting a response, wasn't worth it.

[Spanky99]

Mod's lock this thread up tight... It's kill'n my buzz!!!

 

Go Jays Go!!!

 

f*** you Texas!!!

 

Settle down before you get locked up, lol.

 

Cheers Man... GO JAYS GO!

[fatcowxlive]

I'm going to hijack this thread to say, What's the point of replay and having a limit on the # of times to replay something if the dugout can freeze play for 30 seconds to check with their video room to see if it's worth the challenge? The best part is the umps review takes another 2 minutes to confirm what the video guy in the club's dugout saw already. Manfried is a tool, he wants to speed up games by limiting the # of pitching changes and having all sorts of time clocks in the game for warmups and small things like stepping out of the box which are all accepted in the baseball community, but the new thing that clearly needs refining is left alone. You can shave so much time if when there's a close play, the ump looks into the dugout for 5 seconds and if the manager doesn't signal then the review window is over. I loved what happened to the Reds in the Cardinals game where the umps walked off the field because the Reds coach took 20 seconds to decide whether or not to review THE LAST PLAY OF THE GAME. Unbelievable.

 

Also on a side not: Until this is implemented can we fire our video guy? He tells Gibby to review all the close calls and we have the worst review % in the AL I think.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Cheers Spanky!!! Clap clap clap clapedity Clap!!! Lol

[fatcowxlive]

The answer is still incredibly simple, when it goes to replay, the replay officials simply review the play and make the call as to what they see, completely ignoring what the umpires call was.

 

If its definitive, they make the call. If its inconclusive, the call goes to the offense.

 

Ignoring the call on the field eliminates this issue. It will never happen, but that's the solution. And secondly, have a the umpire make a quick clarification announcement like the refs in football or hockey do.

 

Lol you know that will never happened, the whole conclusive stuff was probably put in so they can shut the umpire union up and still give them some "power", and that their call will still have a role to play when a review happens

[Spanky99]

I'm going to hijack this thread to say, What's the point of replay and having a limit on the # of times to replay something if the dugout can freeze play for 30 seconds to check with their video room to see if it's worth the challenge? The best part is the umps review takes another 2 minutes to confirm what the video guy in the club's dugout saw already. Manfried is a tool, he wants to speed up games by limiting the # of pitching changes and having all sorts of time clocks in the game for warmups and small things like stepping out of the box which are all accepted in the baseball community, but the new thing that clearly needs refining is left alone. You can shave so much time if when there's a close play, the ump looks into the dugout for 5 seconds and if the manager doesn't signal then the review window is over. I loved what happened to the Reds in the Cardinals game where the umps walked off the field because the Reds coach took 20 seconds to decide whether or not to review THE LAST PLAY OF THE GAME. Unbelievable.

 

Also on a side not: Until this is implemented can we fire our video guy? He tells Gibby to review all the close calls and we have the worst review % in the AL I think.

 

I won't read this... Paragraphs and sanity, thanks kid.

[fatcowxlive]

I won't read this... Paragraphs and sanity, thanks kid.

 

All I basically said is make managers choose whether or not to review a play within 5-10 seconds of the dead ball but I kinda got carried away in a rant lol

[Abomination]

All I basically said is make managers choose whether or not to review a play within 5-10 seconds of the dead ball but I kinda got carried away in a rant lol

 

Maybe do this, but if it's ruled inconclusive then the team gets to keep their challenge.

[fatcowxlive]

Maybe do this, but if it's ruled inconclusive then the team gets to keep their challenge.

 

Sure that sounds like a fantastic idea. That way it's not a "waste of time" per say. It's a play worth looking at, and no one is wrong then no one loses their review