Game 3/3 Long John Bluejays vs the Scurvy'd Doggs called white sox !!!

[Daniel Labude]

There is a reason why Sale has the numbers he does. Aces dominate good lineups all the time. Our best player makes outs 60% of the time, and he's an MVP. Do you think Kershaw has just faced teams with poor approaches his whole career? Or Price? Or Clemens?

 

Did the Tigers have a bad approach when Sanchez K'd 12 of them? Have you never seen a talented guy have a peak game?

 

All you've been saying is how this is on the Jays while all you've said about Sale is a bunch of cherry picked numbers from a shaky June and how his philosophy is similar to Stroman's without also acknowledging that he brings 9Ks per game as well. (vs Stro's 5, or whatever).

 

If you think this was a peak game for Sale there is no point in continuing to debate this. He didn't have a good fastball, missed his spots a lot, left more than a few balls up, and had a below avg slider today for what he usually has.

[intentional wok]

If you think this was a peak game for Sale there is no point in continuing to debate this. He didn't have a good fastball, missed his spots a lot, left more than a few balls up, and had a below avg slider today for what he usually has.

 

How many Chris Sale starts have you watched this year? I want a number if you're going to criticize his command vs. his other starts. Your posts about KC and CLE knocking him around didn't have any observations either - just numbers. What did he do poorly in those starts? If you're going to throw the eyeball critiques at me then I want some from those games too. You don't get to move back and forth to whatever suits your arguments. I want you to answer these questions because I'm looking at over four years of statistics that say Sale is about as good as a major league pitcher can get in this era.

 

I also am not saying Sale had a peak game; only that a pitcher having a peak game can neutralize good hitters (like Sanchez @ DET). And regardless of being peak or not, I'm also not arguing that Sale is perfect. A great game can still result from some missed breaking pitches or not having a "good fastball". You're pretending that I mean a "peak" game is a flawless performance.

[Daniel Labude]

How many Chris Sale starts have you watched this year? I want a number if you're going to criticize his command vs. his other starts. Your posts about KC and CLE knocking him around didn't have any observations either - just numbers. What did he do poorly in those starts? If you're going to throw the eyeball critiques at me then I want some from those games too. You don't get to move back and forth to whatever suits your arguments. I want you to answer these questions because I'm looking at over four years of statistics that say Sale is about as good as a major league pitcher can get in this era.

 

I also am not saying Sale had a peak game; only that a pitcher having a peak game can neutralize good hitters (like Sanchez). And regardless of being peak or not, I'm also not arguing that Sale is perfect. A great game can still result from some missed breaking pitches or not having a "good fastball". You're pretending that I mean a "peak" game or even a "great" game means I think those performances were near flawless.

 

I'm not reading the rest of your post because I'm getting off for awhile, but to answer the first part....ALL of them. My brother is a huge White Sox fan and Sale is his favorite player.

[intentional wok]

I'm not reading the rest of your post because I'm getting off for awhile, but to answer the first part....ALL of them. My brother is a huge White Sox fan and Sale is his favorite player.

 

Okay -- well I look forward to reading your breakdown of Sale's pitch selection and command from this year when you have time.

[BTS]

wok, why are you doing this?

[intentional wok]

It's the result of a poor approach for posting on this board.

[Jimcanuck]

I'm not reading the rest of your post because I'm getting off for awhile, but to answer the first part....ALL of them. My brother is a huge White Sox fan and Sale is his favorite player.

 

such people exist?