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[Spanky99]

You can move him down if he's blocked. He'll be in a trade preferably this blurb, lol.

 

Guys will be assigned, hit the DL, lots of s*** happens, through the year. Especially ST.

[The Bad Guy]

Couple people on trade list, looking for 2B, CF’s, Prospects or Closers

 

SS Jean Segura

CF Randal Grichuk

CF Wil Myers

1B Eric Hosmer

2B Rougned Odor

2B/OF Shed Long

 

SP Dakota Hudson

SP Taijuan Walker

SP Trevor Williams

SP Carlos Rodon

RP Jose Urena

 

Prospects

OF Brent Rooker

SP David Peterson

SP Thomas Szapucki

[BTS]

So, I just made the Thaiis trade a few days ago with the Boozers.. I knew he had MILB eligibility... but no green flag. If I would have seen this post I would 100% have done what you requested..?

 

Was Thaiss on the Drunks farm when you acquired him? I feel like I remember him being on their MLB roster. If he was on their farm I’ll move him down.

 

Drunks to confirm?

[Orgfiller]

Was Thaiss on the Drunks farm when you acquired him? I feel like I remember him being on their MLB roster. If he was on their farm I’ll move him down.

 

Drunks to confirm?

 

He's on their MLB roster in the Yahoo league from the past season. Sorry Carlos.

[Carlos Danger]

He's on their MLB roster in the Yahoo league from the past season. Sorry Carlos.

 

Ok, thanks guys!

 

PS, I replied to your other half, have not heard back.

 

Thanks!

[TheHurl]

I'd like to propose a rule that changes it to up to 32 keepers (regardless of their status) so that we don't need to track status. The flags still used during the season of course. People may have already made moves this year to be different

 

Current Rule: On March 1st prior to the rule 5 Draft (March 7) – teams must trim their MLB rosters down. Teams can roster a maximum of 32 total players through the cut down with a maximum of 22 MLB and 14 MiLB being allowed. For example, teams can decide to keep 22 of their MLB players but would only be allowed to carry 10 MiLB. If teams choose this setup their redundant waiver picks will dissolve. If teams acquire more than 12 prospects via trade or draft then they can cut down to a minimum 18 MLB players and carry a maximum of 14 prospects through the cut down period but will be required to cut down to a maximum of 12 prospects before the July MiLB draft.

 

Proposed Rule: On March 1st prior to the rule 5 Draft (March 7) – teams must trim their MLB rosters down. Teams can roster a maximum of 32 total players through the cut down. For every non-Flagged player a team keeps, their redundant waiver picks will dissolve. Teams will be required to cut down to a maximum of 12 prospects before the July MiLB draft.

[Carlos Danger]

Ok, thanks guys!

 

PS, I replied to your other half, have not heard back.

 

Thanks!

 

Tell him I countered.

[Jimcanuck]

I'm good with it, Hurl.

 

One thing that might be an issue is if a prospect is promoted, and is below the threshold and the owner wants to keep on the farm, would the fact the player is no longer a green flag but is on the farm lock the roster from waiver wire pickup, for example? Or is this taken care of by league settings?

[Abomination]

I'd like to propose a rule that changes it to up to 32 keepers (regardless of their status) so that we don't need to track status. The flags still used during the season of course. People may have already made moves this year to be different

 

Current Rule: On March 1st prior to the rule 5 Draft (March 7) – teams must trim their MLB rosters down. Teams can roster a maximum of 32 total players through the cut down with a maximum of 22 MLB and 14 MiLB being allowed. For example, teams can decide to keep 22 of their MLB players but would only be allowed to carry 10 MiLB. If teams choose this setup their redundant waiver picks will dissolve. If teams acquire more than 12 prospects via trade or draft then they can cut down to a minimum 18 MLB players and carry a maximum of 14 prospects through the cut down period but will be required to cut down to a maximum of 12 prospects before the July MiLB draft.

 

Proposed Rule: On March 1st prior to the rule 5 Draft (March 7) – teams must trim their MLB rosters down. Teams can roster a maximum of 32 total players through the cut down. For every non-Flagged player a team keeps, their redundant waiver picks will dissolve. Teams will be required to cut down to a maximum of 12 prospects before the July MiLB draft.

 

I could get behind that, but actually cutting down to 12 prospects for the July draft may not be necessary either (and could cause problems with how Fantrax determines flags during the offseason). I'd suggest having unlimited minors, but people would still need to cut down to 32 total players before the waiver draft. Let's just make it dead simple.

[BTS]

I'm not opposed to changing the cut down rules, but I think it's 2-3 months too late to adopt a change for the 2020 season.

 

I think we should also discuss moving to 26-man regular season rosters, but I've been waiting until the season starts to discuss rule changes that would be effective in 2021.

[Abomination]

I'm not opposed to changing the cut down rules, but I think it's 2-3 months too late to adopt a change for the 2020 season.

 

Yeah, anything major that's changed should probably come into effect for 2021.

[TheHurl]

yes I didn't finish my statement but people may have already made moves for this year so this proposal was for 2021. Gives us time to discuss and see where Fantrax differences might cause an issue with this proposal.

[TheHurl]

I'm good with it, Hurl.

 

One thing that might be an issue is if a prospect is promoted, and is below the threshold and the owner wants to keep on the farm, would the fact the player is no longer a green flag but is on the farm lock the roster from waiver wire pickup, for example? Or is this taken care of by league settings?

 

yes that was my thought process. Guys that finished the season on the big club will cost you a waiver wire pickup and counts as a major league player. There are plenty of players available in the post rule 5 waivers if your player gets returned to the minors.

[Jimcanuck]

yes that was my thought process. Guys that finished the season on the big club will cost you a waiver wire pickup and counts as a major league player. There are plenty of players available in the post rule 5 waivers if your player gets returned to the minors.

 

I'm talking about in-season. If a green flag is promoted and loses the flag, but the owner wants to keep on the farm (and not drop a ML guy) would this lock the roster and preclude any moves, including lineup setting?

[TheHurl]

I'm talking about in-season. If a green flag is promoted and loses the flag, but the owner wants to keep on the farm (and not drop a ML guy) would this lock the roster and preclude any moves, including lineup setting?

 

Not sure. I honestly barely have ever made moves in the LOD to know the effects (I'm also the guy that lost 3 prospects). It's not the intention of the rule I was proposing.

[Jimcanuck]

Not sure. I honestly barely have ever made moves in the LOD to know the effects (I'm also the guy that lost 3 prospects). It's not the intention of the rule I was proposing.

 

Yes, I know its not the intention. This other matter is just something i'm concerned about, and if an issue needs to be addressed before the season starts. Whether the league settings allow non-green flags to sit in the minors without locking the roster. Specifically this setting:

 

Prevent any transaction that would cause a roster to become illegal: Always

[BTS]

Yes, I know its not the intention. This other matter is just something i'm concerned about, and if an issue needs to be addressed before the season starts. Whether the league settings allow non-green flags to sit in the minors without locking the roster. Specifically this setting:

 

Prevent any transaction that would cause a roster to become illegal: Always

 

Jim, if you want to convince yourself that it's fine just turn enable adds temporarily and pick someone up from FA.

[Jimcanuck]

Jim, if you want to convince yourself that it's fine just turn enable adds temporarily and pick someone up from FA.

 

I'm convinced.

[TheHurl]

death penalty

[The Bad Guy]

What does the Green flag mean?

 

Sorry I’m confused

[Jimcanuck]

What does the Green flag mean?

 

Sorry I’m confused

 

Players that are in the minors, either developing or demoted, have a green flag attached to identify them as such.

[The Bad Guy]

Players that are in the minors, either developing or demoted, have a green flag attached to identify them as such.

 

Ok but we still decide when a guy gets promoted right? Fantrax doesn't force us to elevate a guy even if he's in the Majors right?

[Jimcanuck]

There's a ton of overlap between BORED and DDL owners, so we're proposing rule changes that mirror the new DDL rules. I will now plagiarize njh:

 

- We will have unregulated promotion and demotion from/to the MiLB roster (in Fantrax you can't demote unless they have a green flag; in Fantrax if an MiLB player loses their flag it does not lock your roster).

- Waiver draft eligibility will be changed to only include prospects who played in AAA in the previous year (or a prior year).

- Free agent eligibility will be changed to only include players with MLB service time. Players making their debut will be eligible to be added at 8PM EST on the day following their first active day on the 25 man roster. If desired, an owner can request before the 8PM EST eligibility time that a commissioner place a debuting player on "debut waivers." A commissioner who places a player on debut waivers has to announce it in this thread. There is no general obligation to use debut waivers, which is an accommodation for owners who can't compete for an 8PM EST add, but there is an obligation for commissioners to respond to requests for debut waivers.

- The only time mandatory promotion thresholds will apply is at the February cut deadline. The thresholds have been increased to 1000 PA and 50 (GS + half of relief appearances). The point of this is to eliminate owners using the MiLB rosters as a loophole to keep an additional MLB player, if that player happened to have a green flag near the end of the season and was therefore able to be demoted.

 

There are some minor things we'd probably have done a bit differently if the DDL didn't have these rules, but with so many owners participating in both leagues, I think it's best to just have one set of rules to remember when it comes to procedural stuff like this.

 

As always, open for discussion.

 

BadGuy see the last bullet.

[The Bad Guy]

BadGuy see the last bullet.

 

Thank you kindly

[Carlos Danger]

Thank you kindly

 

Just sent you something.

 

Thanks!

[Carlos Danger]

Ok, half -time in the Pats vs. Titans game so I am putting this out there.

 

These players are available for trade *(all my players are for the right price, but shopping these ones). Preferably a minors qualified player, (SPs, doesn't matter how shittty, I will take a look), waiver pick or minor league draft pick, later rounds etc....

Or I am open to packaging as part of a larger deal.

 

Pitchers:

 

Taylor Rogers - RP

Nick Anderson - RP

Mark Melancon - RP

Reynaldo Lopez - SP/RP

Chris Martin- RP

Kolby Allard- SP

Ryan Borucki

 

Position players:

 

Danny Santana - CF/OF/1B/2B

Ian Happ-CF/OF/2B

Matt Thais- 1B/3B

Willy Adames- SS

 

You can PM me 24/7, I never sleep, I have nutrients injected by a portable backpack and I piss in bottles!

 

Thanks!

[Carlos Danger]

Ok, half -time in the Pats vs. Titans game so I am putting this out there.

 

These players are available for trade *(all my players are for the right price, but shopping these ones). Preferably a minors qualified player, (SPs, doesn't matter how shittty, I will take a look), waiver pick or minor league draft pick, later rounds etc....

Or I am open to packaging as part of a larger deal.

 

Pitchers:

 

Taylor Rogers - RP

Nick Anderson - RP

Mark Melancon - RP

Reynaldo Lopez - SP/RP

Chris Martin- RP

Kolby Allard- SP

Ryan Borucki

 

Position players:

 

Danny Santana - CF/OF/1B/2B

Ian Happ-CF/OF/2B

Matt Thais- 1B/3B

Willy Adames- SS

 

You can PM me 24/7, I never sleep, I have nutrients injected by a portable backpack and I piss in bottles!

 

Thanks!

 

Nick Anderson has been moved. All others are still available.

[The Bad Guy]

Looking for draft capital.

 

Will move any of these fine gentleman

 

2B Rougned Odor

2B/OF Shed Long

CF Wil Myers

SP Dakota Hudson

SP Taijuan Walker

SP Trevor Williams

SP Carlos Rodon

RP Jose Urena

[Carlos Danger]

Ok, half -time in the Pats vs. Titans game so I am putting this out there.

 

These players are available for trade *(all my players are for the right price, but shopping these ones). Preferably a minors qualified player, (SPs, doesn't matter how shittty, I will take a look), waiver pick or minor league draft pick, later rounds etc....

Or I am open to packaging as part of a larger deal.

 

Pitchers:

 

Taylor Rogers - RP

Nick Anderson - RP

Mark Melancon - RP

Reynaldo Lopez - SP/RP

Chris Martin- RP

Kolby Allard- SP

Ryan Borucki

 

Position players:

 

Danny Santana - CF/OF/1B/2B

Ian Happ-CF/OF/2B

Matt Thais- 1B/3B

Willy Adames- SS

 

You can PM me 24/7, I never sleep, I have nutrients injected by a portable backpack and I piss in bottles!

 

Thanks!

 

Nick Anderson and Taylor Rogers have been moved. All others still available.

[The Cats Ass]

Looking to move some guys. Most of these can be had cheap. Either a pick or pick upgrade.

 

Bats:

Mauricio Dubon - 2B/SS

Jake Cave - CF

Odubel Herrera - CF

Ender Inciarte - CF

 

Pitchers:

Chase Anderson

Scott Oberg

Anthony Kay

Nick Burdi

Zack Burdi

 

Prospects:

Mickey Moniak

Sam Carlson

 

Also open to pairing one of our other prospects with one of our keepers for an upgrade on our keeper.