Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[tercet]

Reid-Foley aside, I don't think many people here see those guys as more than what they are: potential back of rotation starters who could maybe spend a few years eating some innings for the minimum without embarrassing themselves. It's objectively a good thing to have a bunch of potentially useful young arms in the AA and AAA rotations. We haven't had that for awhile.

 

I agree for the most, having a bunch of reasonable pitchers 20-25 yr olds "lottery tickets" who are one/two adjustments away from being adequate mlb pitchers is a good things to have. They all have some strengths and weaknesses.

 

Probably the best spot since like 07-09 when we had Rzep, Mills, Magnusson, Farina, Cecil, Romero, Farquar, Litsch, etc

[tercet]

League average BB/9 in the international league is 3.3. SRF is at 3.1 as a 22 year old. Also, he's striking out 28% of all batters faced. He may very well walk the house when he gets to the majors but suggesting it because he threw 10 straight balls in early March is moronic.

 

No its warning flag that no one should ignore, how often can you say you've seen a pitcher throw 10 straight balls to open a game?

 

Look he is a pitcher that has some strengths and weaknesses. One of his major weaknesses is his control/command.

 

I saw him several times in March, chatted with him briefly too at the milb complex in Dunedin along with Charlie Wilson(who ive known for 20 years).

 

Put your blue jays hat away for a minute,think rationally please and stop f***in scouting the stats line.

[King]

No its warning flag that no one should ignore, how often can you say you've seen a pitcher throw 10 straight balls to open a game?

 

Look he is a pitcher that has some strengths and weaknesses. One of his major weaknesses is his control/command.

 

I saw him several times in March, chatted with him briefly too at the milb complex in Dunedin along with Charlie Wilson(who ive known for 20 years).

 

Put your blue jays hat away for a minute,think rationally please and stop f***in scouting the stats line.

His command may presently be bad but that doesn't mean it can't improve. He's f***ing 22, you imbecile. The ability to miss bats is the most important thing and SRF has shown he can miss bats at the upper levels of the minors.

[Pendleton]

Nothing has really changed with SRF, sure his "ERA" is lower, but he is just getting by right now with crappy fastball command and a slider that works vs minor leauge hitters.

 

The list of pitchers that BTS listed are over-hyped.

 

I can't recall anyone hyping anyone on that list other than SRF as having more than back end starter potential. That's not really hype at all, maybe the odd person with a pet prospect.

 

Nothing about posting a list of pitchers with solid upper minor league stats and suggesting we are starting to build some DEPTH should cause you to react with "c'mon man you're better than this".

 

You do realize MLB teams will often need 10+ starters over the course of a season, and that obviously they're not all going to be world beaters? The point was that we're at least building some depth of our own at the position and shouldn't have to spend money on crappy free agent gas cans to fill out the 5-10 spots on the depth chart.

[tercet]

His command may presently be bad but that doesn't mean it can't improve. He's f***ing 22, you imbecile. The ability to miss bats is the most important thing and SRF has shown he can miss bats at the upper levels of the minors.

 

Yes he could improve, but just assuming he would go from terrible milb command to average mlb command just because he is "young" is where I disagree with you.

 

But, time will tell!

[tercet]

I can't recall anyone hyping anyone on that list other than SRF as having more than back end starter potential. That's not really hype at all.

 

Nothing about posting a list of pitchers with solid upper minor league stats and suggesting we are starting to build some DEPTH should cause you to react with "c'mon man you're better than this".

 

You do realize MLB teams will often need 10+ starters over the course of a season, and that obviously they're not all going to be world beaters? The point was that we're at least building some depth of our own at the position and shouldn't have to spend money on crappy free agent gas cans to fill out the 5-10 spots on the depth chart.

 

Yes I understand how it all works. I just think that BTS is on crack hoping that guys like Zeuch, Harris and Pannone will become back-end starters. I agree with most of the stuff he has said over the last 10~ years, but I just disagree with him here and his opinion of Hech back in 2010/11.

 

But look I thought Randy Ruiz, Travis Snider, Brad Mills, JPA would be good players, use that against me gogogo.

[Daniel Labude]

SRF is overrated. Pearson has pitched 21 innings in the minors chill.

 

If you want to get technical, SRF is vastly underrated lmao

 

Pearson may very well come down to health. If he stays healthy he will be a beast imo

[Daniel Labude]

No its warning flag that no one should ignore, how often can you say you've seen a pitcher throw 10 straight balls to open a game?

 

Look he is a pitcher that has some strengths and weaknesses. One of his major weaknesses is his control/command.

 

I saw him several times in March, chatted with him briefly too at the milb complex in Dunedin along with Charlie Wilson(who ive known for 20 years).

 

Put your blue jays hat away for a minute,think rationally please and stop f***in scouting the stats line.

 

Didn't Sanchez not throw a strike one year in the minors (Some posters made it seem that way), then he led the AL in ERA when he was what 23/24...yes Minors stats and a 1 10 pitch segment is a warning flag lol

[Deadpool]

No its warning flag that no one should ignore, how often can you say you've seen a pitcher throw 10 straight balls to open a game?

 

This is a ridiculous statement. I mean, you almost could literally not find a smaller sample size.

[Ray]

Groshans through 21 games in the GCL: .372/.440/.590 3HR 181 wRC+ 11.0BB% 15.4K%

 

For comparison, Bo through 22 games in the GCL: .427/.451/.732 4HR 238 wRC+ 6.6BB% 18.7K%

 

Groshans is torching rookie league, but also goes to show how much of a beast Bo was.

[Jimcanuck]

Groshans through 21 games in the GCL: .372/.440/.590 3HR 181 wRC+ 11.0BB% 15.4K%

 

For comparison, Bo through 22 games in the GCL: .427/.451/.732 4HR 238 wRC+ 6.6BB% 18.7K%

 

Groshans is torching rookie league, but also goes to show how much of a beast Bo was.

 

Groshans is the Adell of this year's draft.

[Bobthe4th]

This is a ridiculous statement. I mean, you almost could literally not find a smaller sample size.

 

Every true genius level scout knows that any player who throws 10 straight balls should instantly retire. They also know that no young player has ever improved, that’s why no team ever hires coaches, and no one over the age of 20 has ever had a good career without dominating as a teenager first.

[Jimcanuck]

Every true genius level scout knows that any player who throws 10 straight balls should instantly retire. They also know that no young player has ever improved, that’s why no team ever hires coaches, and no one over the age of 20 has ever had a good career without dominating as a teenager first.

 

We finally agree on something.

[THANOS]

League average BB/9 in the international league is 3.3. SRF is at 3.1 as a 22 year old. Also, he's striking out 28% of all batters faced. He may very well walk the house when he gets to the majors but suggesting it because he threw 10 straight balls in early March is moronic.

 

Well put.

[L54]

Nothing has really changed with SRF

 

You're right. All he's done is strikeout more and walk less hitters in 19 starts between AA/AAA in this year than he did in all of 2017 at AA.

[L54]

No its warning flag that no one should ignore, how often can you say you've seen a pitcher throw 10 straight balls to open a game?

 

This happened in March. I bet you're the only person on earth who remembers it happened.

[tercet]

This is a ridiculous statement. I mean, you almost could literally not find a smaller sample size.

 

Yes it is a small sample but how often in baseball history have you seen a pitcher open a game with 10 straight balls?

 

SRF has a major weakness, which is an inability to constantly throw quality strikes.

 

Have any of you guys actually seen him pitch before? Doesn't seem like it lol

[tercet]

Well put.

 

Stop scouting the stats line lol

[tercet]

You're right. All he's done is strikeout more and walk less hitters in 19 starts between AA/AAA in this year than he did in all of 2017 at AA.

 

Stop scouting the stats line lol

[Deadpool]

Yes it is a small sample but how often in baseball history have you seen a pitcher open a game with 10 straight balls?

 

SRF has a major weakness, which is an inability to constantly throw quality strikes.

 

Have any of you guys actually seen him pitch before? Doesn't seem like it lol

 

I'm sure it's happened many times, but nobody remembers s*** like that, because it's totally f***ing irrelevant.

[Captain Adama]

Yes it is a small sample but how often in baseball history have you seen a pitcher open a game with 10 straight balls?

 

SRF has a major weakness, which is an inability to constantly throw quality strikes.

 

Have any of you guys actually seen him pitch before? Doesn't seem like it lol

 

Dallas f***ing Braden threw a perfect game. I don't care what happened. A small sample size is a small sample size.

[tercet]

I'm sure it's happened many times, but nobody remembers s*** like that, because it's totally f***ing irrelevant.

 

lol fanboyism is strong with you

[tercet]

Dallas f***ing Braden threw a perfect game. I don't care what happened. A small sample size is a small sample size.

 

Uh what?

[Deadpool]

lol fanboyism is strong with you

 

10 pitches is not anything on which you can base anything. That's not fanboyism at all, that's just the reality of how all of this works.

[tercet]

10 pitches is not anything on which you can base anything. That's not fanboyism at all, that's just the reality of how all of this works.

 

He did something that albeit it fluky I agree, it proves more to the fact he has shown an inability to throw strikes throughout his milb career.

 

I am saying be REALISTIC and stop f***ing thinking he is the second coming of syndergaard or your ideal dreamy power pitcher.

 

His major flaw won't magically disappear overnight.

[Deadpool]

He did something that albeit it fluky I agree, it proves more to the fact he has shown an inability to throw strikes throughout his milb career.

 

I am saying be REALISTIC and stop f***ing thinking he is the second coming of syndergaard or your ideal dreamy power pitcher.

 

His major flaw won't magically disappear overnight.

 

Nobody said anything about him being Syndergaard, don't be daft. He's got potential to be more than a mid-rotation starter, he's young and he's got good stuff, and his numbers this year (at the highest level before the majors in his early 20s) indicate that he may have figured out something, maybe even since March!

[Captain Adama]

Uh what?

 

You're still pounding the drum of SRF opening a game with 10 straight balls that you watched him pitch=he sucks.

 

That line of reasoning is ******** and it's time to tuck that away.

[L54]

Stop scouting the stats line lol

 

Your scouting report consists of one spring training game lol

[43211234]

Vlad 2-4 tonight.

 

All is right in the world.

[THANOS]

Stop scouting the stats line lol

 

Your sample size = 10 pitches on one game.

 

My sample size = 10.64 K/9, 3.55 BB/9, 3.27 FIP in 104 IP between AA & AAA.

 

Hell, his AAA is actually even better in isolation.

 

In 59.2 IP; 10.71 K/9, 3.17 BB/9, 3.17 FIP

 

So he's actually improved his walk rate against tougher competition.