Trading Bautista and/or Encarnacion

[xposbrad]

Come July, absolutely. If we rob and steal.

 

The only thing I fear is that this shoulder problem might be a tear, labral/rotator. Then we're screwed.

[Spanky99]

He's also projected to be at 2.9 war this year, what was he the previous 2 years? Again, you are arguing with yourself, I am not saying he's garbage, that would be retarded. I am factoring in his age and trade value. If you read my posts, I am talking about how the time has come to trade him, I don't care what his wrc+ is, it won't matter when the Jays don't make the playoffs again. It's time to trade him to a contender so the Jays can retool.

 

2.9 why? Uhmm......cause hasn't played RF, he's worth much more once you change his position value. Keep reaching, he'll land a haul bro, figure it out.

 

P.S. He's been throwing on the side, originally from 40 feet, now 75, he'll be alright.

[IronLadle]

The only thing I fear is that this shoulder problem might be a tear, labral/rotator. Then we're screwed.

 

You're talking about trading him for any top prospect we'd be screwed anyway with that mentality

[Atothe]

I think AA loses his job before Bautista is traded

[Spanky99]

You guys realize we have Joey Bats and EE through 16' right?

[BigCecil]

2.9 why? Uhmm......cause hasn't played RF, he's worth much more once you change his position value. Keep reaching, he'll land a haul bro, figure it out.

 

P.S. He's been throwing on the side, originally from 40 feet, now 75, he'll be alright.

 

That's f***ing good news. Aside from a great arm, I never thought Id miss Jose THIS much as an OF. Its thrown off our whole line up.

[IronLadle]

You guys realize we have Joey Bats and EE through 16' right?

 

I think there value goes down quite a bit next year

[Spanky99]

I think there value goes down quite a bit next year

 

From say late July, absolutely.

[Ziggyy108]

I think AA loses his job before Bautista is traded

 

I don't think either will be traded this year.

 

I would be shocked if AA was fired before this draft / draft signing period.

 

So I imagine he'll be here past the trade deadline ....

Edited May 24, 2015 by Ziggyy108

[Spanky99]

I don't think either will be trade this year.

 

I would be shocked if AA was fired before this draft / draft signing period.

 

Wow...same.

[IronLadle]

If AA doesn't get a decent return for these two and we don't make the postseason then he deserves to be fired

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Jays say no

 

 

 

Astros say no

 

 

Answer the question you punk? Lol why and Why reasons?

[King]

Answer the question you punk? Lol why and Why reasons?

 

Edwin Diaz is an okay throw in prospect (100-150 range). Kivlehan is a non-prospect. Austin Jackson is garbage. Rodney is old as s***, bad this season and a free agent at the end of the year. Hultzen has major injury problems. Tyler O'Neill and Gareth Morgan don't carry much value right now more than a throw in, if that. Miller would be nice. But that's awful return for Bautista + Reyes + Cecil + Pillar + Navarro.

 

Correa has the potential to be the best shortstop in the game, under team control for 6 years (and dirt cheap for 3). The Astros aren't trading him right now.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Austin and Rodney are to equal money out as both are free agents at the end of the year and Austin plays Center and can replace pillar there moving him back to left field ! Or play right maybe since bats never seems may never heal playing at this rate! You can Dfa Rodney no probs! Kivlehan not sure why but he can play 3rd, 1st and play some field and still young enough to improve, why can't he?

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Hultzen is nothing new to our pitching staffs of late, you don't think he ever makes it back?

 

Not all about winning now and we save a lot of money to make moves with just this trade alone!

[IronLadle]

Austin and Rodney are to equal money out as both are free agents at the end of the year and Austin plays Center and can replace pillar there moving him back to left field ! Or play right maybe since bats never seems may never heal playing at this rate! You can Dfa Rodney no probs! Kivlehan not sure why but he can play 3rd, 1st and play some field and still young enough to improve, why can't he?

 

Why wouldn't you trade Bautista for some good prospects rather than guys you'll just dfa

[RealAccountant]

I would trade Encarnacion before Bautista especially if EE heats up he could bring back a significant return. Dudes knees are a long term.issue anyways and I don't think.he is another Ortiz

[TilsonBritoFan]

With the Batz trade done:

 

Take Edwin dickey Thole and Marte and trade them to the astro's plus 8 mill saving us about 5 mill this year!

 

To the jays Carlos correa, Jason castro, johnathan singleton and Lance McCullers

 

While we're at it maybe we can trade Navarro and Buehrle to the Cubs for Kris Bryant

 

No offense but there is no way in hell the Astros agree to that. Carlos Correa is an unbelievable talent, he is basically untouchable.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Why wouldn't you trade Bautista for some good prospects rather than guys you'll just dfa

 

Read the above I answered it for you!

 

So lets hear your big ideas, smart ass!

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

While we're at it maybe we can trade Navarro and Buehrle to the Cubs for Kris Bryant

 

No offense but there is no way in hell the Astros agree to that. Carlos Correa is an unbelievable talent, he is basically untouchable.

 

 

And Edwin is what chopped liver! Plus gives em I hell of a shot right now and makes them a better team Edwin is proven and the rookie ain't ! Wtf

[IronLadle]

it's on page 6, I think

[Zaun of the Dead]

This needs to happen immediately. Build around the pieces coming back, Hutch, Donaldson, and the Kids. Do it AA. For FYSMC nation.

[Spanky99]

This needs to happen immediately. Build around the pieces coming back, Hutch, Donaldson, and the Kids. Do it AA. For FYSMC nation.

 

Yer dumn!!

[nonamejays]

Is there any reasonable way to acquire a decent starting pitcher or two without moving either Bautista/EE or guys like Hoffman/Norris/Pentecost?

[Jimcanuck]

Is there any reasonable way to acquire a decent starting pitcher or two without moving either Bautista/EE or guys like Hoffman/Norris/Pentecost?

 

Take back a bad contract, like a Romero

[Caper]

Is there any reasonable way to acquire a decent starting pitcher or two without moving either Bautista/EE or guys like Hoffman/Norris/Pentecost?

 

 

Hope Stroman is pitching on a mound in August and in games by sept. Playoffs by October.

[glory]

Is there any reasonable way to acquire a decent starting pitcher or two without moving either Bautista/EE or guys like Hoffman/Norris/Pentecost?

 

Scott Kazmir?

[RealAccountant]

Scott Kazmir?

 

What do the As think of Aaron Sanchez

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Scott Kazmir?

 

This one might be our best bet, in fact maybe beane would look to move a hand full of his pending FA to us!

 

Kazmir, majica, Clippard and Zobrist

For say Reyes, Estrada, Castro, Boyd, the pimp, Redman and Jenkins

saving him money on the year too!

We pay him 11 mill for Reyes going forward starting next year and pay the buyout at 4 mill

[SAAviour]

I think billy beanie is never trading with the jays again.