GDT(2/3): Your Toronto Blue Jays @ Tampa Bay Rays - Norris vs. Ramirez - 6:10 PM ET

[Atothe]

yet as soon as Osuna allows a run, no doubt people will be calling for him to be demoted too.

 

Anyone who is bitching about Castro needs to be taken out back Old Yeller style.

 

The offense is at fault in this one. You allow 4 runs you should win. Once again we make TB pitchers look like f***ing Cy Youngers.

 

What? Have you seen Castro pitch the last few times, hard hit balls and has started to walk guys. Losing faith in his offspeed pitches. He's showing that he isn't ready (blessing in disgust)

[bronson44]

Can we not talking about batting averages in evaluating players? I would think that people would be a little more intelligent on a "baseball forum".

 

You might want to have your sarcasm detector looked at

[Atothe]

Spend money on bullpen guys and forgetting these bullpens guys were once rookies or failed starters. Thread Logic smh

[Stangstag]

massive over reaction. Theres no one else I want in with the game on the line.

 

I'm sorry to break this to you, but you may be slightly retarded. Mentally retarded.

[BTS]

yet as soon as Osuna allows a run, no doubt people will be calling for him to be demoted too.

 

Anyone who is bitching about Castro needs to be taken out back Old Yeller style.

 

The offense is at fault in this one. You allow 4 runs you should win. Once again we make TB pitchers look like f***ing Cy Youngers.

 

Castro is not good. He might one day be very good, but he's not right now.

[Daniel Labude]

What? Have you seen Castro pitch the last few times, hard hit balls and has started to walk guys. Losing faith in his offspeed pitches. He's showing that he isn't ready (blessing in disgust)

 

They haven't called a changeup in weeks it seems like...Wasn't that his best pitch?

[Angrioter]

Call up Delabar and Guilmet. Francis and Castro to the minors pleaseeeee

[Atothe]

Call up Delabar and Guilmet. Francis and Castro to the minors pleaseeeee

 

Loup down too

[Stangstag]

They haven't called a changeup in weeks it seems like...Wasn't that his best pitch?

 

It's probably not working for him right now, which is why he should be in the minors to work on his pitches and control.

[Stangstag]

Call up Delabar and Guilmet. Francis and Castro to the minors pleaseeeee

 

Francis was really good yesterday

[Angrioter]

Loup down too

 

Why?

[HERPDERP]

If you watch Castro he is just not as good as he was in ST. In ST he was pinpoint with his control and his off speed stuff was tailing down.

[Angrioter]

Francis was really good yesterday

 

Francis is not a loogy. He's rotation depth

[Daniel Labude]

Call up Delabar and Guilmet. Francis and Castro to the minors pleaseeeee

 

They will try Castro more in mid relief before he goes down. His problem isnt giving up runs, it's coming in and not holding the runners he has inherited. Might not have the makeup for that

[ElNik2013]

I can't believe how many people think Cecil sucks because things haven't gone his way though 5 innings (in which his still has a not-terrible 3.76 xFIP). Guy has been absolute nails for 110+ innings over the last two years.

 

For me, it was more about over-managing after a bloop hit that would've been caught had the OF not been playing deep. Osuna vs DeJeesus doesn't scare me with a guy on 1st. Then to top it off, he takes out Cecil after a gb single.

 

What should be most worrying to Jays fans is that the Gibbons hasn't noticed that Castro's been terrible.

[Stangstag]

For me, it was more about over-managing after a bloop hit that would've been caught had the OF not been playing deep. Osuna vs DeJeesus doesn't scare me with a guy on 1st. Then to top it off, he takes out Cecil after a gb single.

 

What should be most worrying to Jays fans is that the Gibbons hasn't noticed that Castro's been terrible.

 

This this this

[ElNik2013]

They haven't called a changeup in weeks it seems like...Wasn't that his best pitch?

 

His fastball has been running over the middle of the plate or completely off the plate which = lots of trouble. He's also not commanding his slider and changeup.

 

 

The sooner they admit defeat on this one, the better. In fact, I'd have more respect for them if they admitted a mistake and sent him down ASAP and I'm sure I'm not the lone ranger on this one.

[gbill2004]

AA needs to trade for Paplebon or sign Soriano.

[BTS]

For me, it was more about over-managing after a bloop hit that would've been caught had the OF not been playing deep. Osuna vs DeJeesus doesn't scare me with a guy on 1st. Then to top it off, he takes out Cecil after a gb single.

 

What should be most worrying to Jays fans is that the Gibbons hasn't noticed that Castro's been terrible.

 

I still don't understand why Castro has been deemed the team's best reliever.

[CJ-Freeway]

Who has been bad besides Castro?

 

Cecil, Loup, and Hendricks

 

Pretty much everyone in the pen except for Osuna

[MatBarnes]

I still don't understand why Castro has been deemed the team's best reliever.

 

Because of stuff and stuff.

[MatBarnes]

Castro is not good. He might one day be very good, but he's not right now.

 

I'm inclined to agree. There's a reason it's vary rare to see guys his age in the majors... they're usually NOT f***ING READY.

[ElNik2013]

I still don't understand why Castro has been deemed the team's best reliever.

 

ERA. Not only has he been deemed the team's best reliever, but Gibbons is using him as if he was Mariono Rivera.

[Atothe]

Cecil, Loup, and Hendricks

 

Pretty much everyone in the pen except for Osuna

 

Cecil and Hendricks? Really? Really? how have they been bad?

[CJ-Freeway]

Edwin and Bautista are both batting under .200

 

Wow that's scary! They both suck now right?

 

Edwin and JB have still been more productive than this s*** pen. (Even though they've been struggling atm)

 

I could agree with you if we had one or 2 blown saves by now, but we have 5 blown saves already, ffs. Can someone check if we lead the majors in this s*** category?

 

5 blown saves in 17 games is f***ing inexcusable

[Stangstag]

I still don't understand why Castro has been deemed the team's best reliever.

 

He can touch 100mph! He can strike ANYONE out!

[jays4life19]

I didn't read the last 4 pages because it's probably a shitshow. It's time to get drunk though Jays fans. Horrible ending....nice to see Norris stepping up though.

[Stangstag]

I didn't read the last 4 pages because it's probably a shitshow. It's time to get drunk though Jays fans. Horrible ending....nice to see Norris stepping up though.

 

It's mostly just arguing about Castro and whether he sucks or not (he does)

[LTR]

I didn't read the last 4 pages because it's probably a shitshow. It's time to get drunk though Jays fans. Horrible ending....nice to see Norris stepping up though.

 

It's entirely possible our SP can cut it (considering our offense). But our bullpen is a mess.

[jaysfan2014]

Edwin and JB have still been more productive than this s*** pen. (Even though they've been struggling atm)

 

I could agree with you if we had one or 2 blown saves by now, but we have 5 blown saves already, ffs. Can someone check if we lead the majors in this s*** category?

 

5 blown saves in 17 games is f***ing inexcusable

 

Actually, officially, we only have 3 blown saves. Washington has 5 blown saves already.. and you wonder why that team is struggling.

 

FYI, according to ESPN:

 

Washington 5

Seattle 4

Chicago 4

Cincy 4

Boston and Toronto tied at 3

 

If you think our bullpen sucks, try being a Nats fan right now.. they'd be complaining more! Same goes in Boston, whose overworked pen, bad starters, and inconsistent offense are costing them games (and the reason they're only 10-7 (soon to be 10-8, as they are losing to the O's with Zach Britton coming for the 9th.)