G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 Travis + Happ/Nolin for Kendrick? Why bother trying. He will block the trade.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 Funny how divisive Travis is in the prospect universe. Depending on whose report you read, he plays above/below average defense, he's an above/below average runner, he's an above/below average hitter. Unless I'm mistaken (it's happened before), some of the best 2nd basemen in the game weren't highly ranked as prospects. I don't think Pedroia, Altuve or Utley were that highly ranked. I don't even think Kinsler, Cano or Dozier were top prospects. As I said though, I've been wrong before...at least a couple of times. Defense who knows. But every report I have seen and almost every stat suggests he can hit.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 So he's not a true jay then! Lol
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 Why bother trying. He will block the trade. True that. It does seem like every player that could block a trade to the Blue Jays, would.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 Defense who knows. But every report I have seen and almost every stat suggests he can hit. I'm fine with Travis. I hope it's the type of move that AA will continue to make instead of going for the blockbuster type. Sign Martin and another OF, possibly Saunders and a couple of cheap RP and let's go. Keep the farm and let guys like Castro, Osuna, Nay, Pentecost, Hoffman, Barreto, Jansen, among a few others, continue to develop thus providing this franchise with something positive to look forward to along with Norris, Pompey, Sanchez, Lawrie. We'll see what happens.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 I think they both probably have Jays on No Trade. I dont think it has anything to do with Toronto or Canada, more to do with that Carpet the Jays play on, and its harm on the knees But ARGOOOSSSS
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 I'm fine with Travis. I hope it's the type of move that AA will continue to make instead of going for the blockbuster type. Sign Martin and another OF, possibly Saunders and a couple of cheap RP and let's go. Keep the farm and let guys like Castro, Osuna, Nay, Pentecost, Hoffman, Barreto, Jansen, among a few others, continue to develop thus providing this franchise with something positive to look forward to along with Norris, Pompey, Sanchez, Lawrie. We'll see what happens. Signing Melky and Martin both does not harm the farm much, or the opportunity for young players.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 Signing Melky and Martin both does not harm the farm much, or the opportunity for young players. I don't think the team has the $ to sign both Martin and Cabrera. I'd rather they sign Martin plus a cheaper option like Aoki or buy low on a guy like Saunders although it's not clear how much they'd have to give up to get him or a similar player. Team could also use another plus CF option since right now it only has Pompey. We'll see...
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 I don't think the team has the $ to sign both Martin and Cabrera. . They do if they can offload Burly, anyways its a moot point, we all know they wont be in the market for Martin. He will get a lot more money than AA will be willing to offer.
flafson Verified Member Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 I think they both probably have Jays on No Trade. I dont think it has anything to do with Toronto or Canada, more to do with that Carpet the Jays play on, and its harm on the knees But ARGOOOSSSS If you believe that they can't put grass because the Argos play there 10 games for every 365 days then you were fooled.
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 If you believe that they can't put grass because the Argos play there 10 games for every 365 days then you were fooled. yeah...the monstor trucks or Disney on ice probably have more to do with it than the argos!
SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 I don't think the team has the $ to sign both Martin and Cabrera. I'd rather they sign Martin plus a cheaper option like Aoki or buy low on a guy like Saunders although it's not clear how much they'd have to give up to get him or a similar player. Team could also use another plus CF option since right now it only has Pompey. We'll see... I also like the Martin, Aoki combo....but it'd be great to sign both Martin and Cabrera. If there was a way to offload MB, and get one of the young pups to start in his place, I'd be so happy. MB is good for 12 wins, 4 ERA, but Sanchez or someone might do better and then we'd save a bit of money. I know we'd eat 80% of MB's last year.
SAAviour Verified Member Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 How about Justin upton trade, plus Martin signing. I want Upton for his walk year, plus the draft pick next year when we let him walk.
SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 How about Justin upton trade, plus Martin signing. I want Upton for his walk year, plus the draft pick next year when we let him walk. Uh, no. It'd take three prospects to pry him free. Maybe 4.
SAAviour Verified Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 For 1 year of upton? 3-4 prospects? Well no under that scenario for me to...but I don't think it takes that.
SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 For 1 year of upton? 3-4 prospects? Well no under that scenario for me to...but I don't think it takes that. Like almost every year, the Braves are in this to win it. Upton is a very good player. And if he walks, they get a comp pick. They may deal for a starter or something, but unless we blow them away with prospects I don't see the Braves doing a trade. Just my two cents.
Ehjays Verified Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 How about Justin upton trade, plus Martin signing. I want Upton for his walk year, plus the draft pick next year when we let him walk. Upton also has the Jays on his No-trade list.
Ehjays Verified Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 AS per Morosi tweet on Nov 10 Justin Upton's updated no-trade list allows him to block deals to Cubs, Brewers, Indians, and Blue Jays, source says.
flafson Verified Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I wonder why so many players block us, no way it's because of the turf, you don't hear anyone block the Rays.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I wonder why so many players block us, no way it's because of the turf, you don't hear anyone block the Rays. You wonder? We play in Canada. We play in one of the worst stadiums on turf. We suck. We really suck. We've f***ing sucked for the last 20 years. Did i mention we suck?
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 What you trying to say, spit it out already! Lol
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 What you trying to say, spit it out already! Lol We suck.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Thanks for that! Feel better? Have a Rum, it will all be better! Lol
jayswin11 Verified Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Hypothetical question. Reyes for Crawford, 1-1. Would you do it? With the caveat we sign or trade for SS who cheaper and upgrade def.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Hypothetical question. Reyes for Crawford, 1-1. Would you do it? With the caveat we sign or trade for SS who cheaper and upgrade def. Nope.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Not hard to conclude that a good number of FA would try to avoid signing with the Jays given they seem to be on so many players' no-trade list. We'll see what happens.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I think Travis could've been promoted to AAA last year and gotten some AB's. Hopefully, he gets off to a good start and is given a shot around May or so, sort of like Stroman this past season.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I wonder why so many players block us, no way it's because of the turf, you don't hear anyone block the Rays. the perceived problem with the currency, the thought of border crossings and the fact that ownership during the Interbrew era were complete twats and now not winning for 20 years... it's a lot to swallow.
FireAlexAnthopoulos Verified Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I wonder why so many players block us, no way it's because of the turf, you don't hear anyone block the Rays. Garbage management, 21+ years of losing, and ownership is unwilling to spend. That's the real reason... Canada and the turf are just excuses that AA and Beeston push to keep the heat off themselves.
kgm1 Verified Member Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Garbage management, 21+ years of losing, and ownership is unwilling to spend. That's the real reason... Canada and the turf are just excuses that AA and Beeston push to keep the heat off themselves. Are you so blind that you can't see the reality. Yes ownership and the mouth of JP Ricarrdi caused players to look dimly at the Jays. But that is just one of the many factors . As o2 states , different country, Americans don't want to play outside the states, Turf, proven to be harder on the body, Rogers Center, why would pitchers want to play there. Money, we aren't willing to pay more for them to come, and marketing, Few can make the extra income outside of baseball
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