Jays should go after Derrick Norris for Right Handed DH

[OBPlover]

Now that Derrick Norris' defensive ineptitude is getting him chased outta town in Oakland. A good move would be to trade for him (shouldn't be expensive). Resign Lind and use him in a plattoon role as our RH DH. The guy just mashes LHP but can't do anything defensively. In an emergency he could catch.

[jays_fever]

Id rather them go after Derrick Rose to fix our second base problems. Very explosive, raw athlete with big time upside

[GD]

Id rather them go after Derrick Rose to fix our second base problems. Very explosive, raw athlete with big time upside

 

Would fit right in with the injury problems

[GD]

"Derrick" lol

[OBPlover]

"Derek" cough pardon me.

[GD]

"Derek" cough pardon me.

 

The A's already use him in this role nicely, between C/DH or whatever. Why would they trade him?

[LongTimeReader]

Good idea IYAM... though sample size is still pretty small to say he's a true lefty masher

[BTS]

I don't imagine that Oakland is all that eager to ship out catching depth with Jaso's head all mushy.

[SAAviour]

I'd rather not waste 2 positions on a platoon DH when the position can be used to give players a rest from the turf.

[GD]

2 positions

 

inb4 BTS has a hissy fit

[BTS]

inb4 BTS has a hissy fit

 

No I actually kind of agree. If the plan is to use Norris as strictly a DH platoon and only very rarely at C, you are using two spots on the DH. I'd want him to be one of two catchers on the 25-man if he's on the roster.

[GD]

No I actually kind of agree. If the plan is to use Norris as strictly a DH platoon and only very rarely at C, you are using two spots on the DH. I'd want him to be one of two catchers on the 25-man if he's on the roster.

 

He'd probably be in a C/DH/1B kinda thing I guess. I dunno, his framing is way better (still bad) but his fielding is markedly worse.

[RealAccountant]

No I actually kind of agree. If the plan is to use Norris as strictly a DH platoon and only very rarely at C, you are using two spots on the DH. I'd want him to be one of two catchers on the 25-man if he's on the roster.

 

Exactly. That's the dream scenario.

 

I wonder if he can catch the knucle ball

[BTS]

He'd probably be in a C/DH/1B kinda thing I guess. I dunno, his framing is way better (still bad) but his fielding is markedly worse.

 

I know absolutely nothing about his defense. Is it bad enough to eliminate most of the value he provides offensively?

[GD]

I know absolutely nothing about his defense. Is it bad enough to eliminate most of the value he provides offensively?

 

Based on my back-of-the-not-giving-two-shits-napkin math, -7 defense and -2 framing would be replaced with -12.5 positional adjustment or something like that. Probably like a -3 run swing but it's also easier on his body to DH. It's a wash more or less.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Why? His position is catcher and the Jays have 2 locked up and Norris is not great. I don't get it. Can you please give me the punch line?

[F. Torres]

John Mayberry Jr: career .269/.324/.533 (130 wRC+) hitter vs. LHP in 534 PA.

 

Danny Valencia: career .327/.368/.502 (138 wRC+) hitter vs. LHP in 552 PA.

 

Anthopoulos doesn't need to waste time or assets (no way in hell Oakland just gives away Norris) chasing a platoon mate for Lind. He's got two prime candidates already who are going to cost peanuts in arbitration.

[LongTimeReader]

John Mayberry Jr: career .269/.324/.533 (130 wRC+) hitter vs. LHP in 534 PA.

 

Danny Valencia: career .327/.368/.502 (138 wRC+) hitter vs. LHP in 552 PA.

 

Anthopoulos doesn't need to waste time or assets (no way in hell Oakland just gives away Norris) chasing a platoon mate for Lind. He's got two prime candidates already who are going to cost peanuts in arbitration.

 

Derek Norris is career 143 wRC+ vs LHP. And I really don't think it's "wasting time". There's enough time in the off-season to call every single GM and talk about every single player from little league up. AA should be doing everything and anything he can to improve the club. With that said, I expect him to a bunch of less than spectacular moves.

[F. Torres]

Derek Norris is career 143 wRC+ vs LHP. And I really don't think it's "wasting time". There's enough time in the off-season to call every single GM and talk about every single player from little league up. AA should be doing everything and anything he can to improve the club. With that said, I expect him to a bunch of less than spectacular moves.

 

The difference between a 130 wRC+ hitter and a 143 wRC+ hitter over a season is marginal when you consider the fact that the RHB part of the platoon usually gets < 50% of the PA. The benefit vs. the cost to acquire Norris (which, again, would hardly be inconsequential considering he's at worst an average regular who is cost controlled for 4 more years) doesn't make sense to me.

[Dick_Pole]

John Mayberry Jr: career .269/.324/.533 (130 wRC+) hitter vs. LHP in 534 PA.

 

Danny Valencia: career .327/.368/.502 (138 wRC+) hitter vs. LHP in 552 PA.

 

Anthopoulos doesn't need to waste time or assets (no way in hell Oakland just gives away Norris) chasing a platoon mate for Lind. He's got two prime candidates already who are going to cost peanuts in arbitration.

 

I agree, regressed or non-regressed or whatever, the Jays probably have the "RH platoon DH position" covered, which shouldn't very high up on the priority list of holes to fill anyways.