SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Oh, great. Jose is hiring more people on to his marketing team. "First twitter ... then ... the WORLD!" If I say your post isn't fun and also trying to hard, will you put me in a choke hold or shatter my forearm?
SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Oh, you're the grammar cop on the board. Good to know. And also a junior MMA fighter. Lastly, mom's basement dweller. That's three titles. Cool.
SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Buffalo Bill ... put down the lotion and drop the basket. Trying too hard again. Not funny. Hulk smash? Call your mom down to check out these posts...
SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 At least with the other ID, we could view the cute girl in the avatar. This is a step in the wrong direction, Bill. Do you see girls when you reply to posts from dudes a lot? There may be other issues involved here, mom's basement dweller.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Agreed. I've long thought Bautista was a whiny bitch, but hey, gotta give credit where credit's due - he ethered Simmons. I liked that he made it publically known he wasn't happy about hearing Beeston talk about '92 & '93. Or listening to Alex pretend to sell a poorly built team as a contender. Poor Jays FO.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 And I'm still waiting for these press clippings of your co-workers taking managers to task via media outlets. The media doesn't really care what goes on in jail. They just wanna know the guys and girls are in custody. I love whistle blowers and when things are deservedly made public.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 The media doesn't really care what goes on in jail. They just wanna know the guys and girls are in custody. I love whistle blowers and when things are deservedly made public. Didn't you brag before about sleeping and doing nothing at work most of the day and laughed about wasting taxpayer money? Just seems kind of ironic that you'd be all hung ho about taking people to task for being bad managers/employees.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Didn't you brag before about sleeping and doing nothing at work most of the day and laughed about wasting taxpayer money? Just seems kind of ironic that you'd be all hung ho about taking people to task for being bad managers/employees. I don't ever remember saying I slept all day. And really, I'm not a bad employee. I just don't strive to be an excellent employee. There's absolutely no incentive to.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 I'm with employees who speak out. Because every once in awhile Management needs to realize they're f*** ups. Nothing wrong with employees expressing dissent internally as long as it is done respectfully and management's decision on the matter is respected. Criticizing management in the media is wrong, unless its whistleblowing of illegal or unethical activity. In some places/professions the employee is protected when doing so. An employee that has had enough can leave (default on contract in Bautista's case... penalties apply) or demand a trade. The ones to show management they are f*** ups are the clients - the fans, or the shareholders as represented by Rogers board.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 I don't ever remember saying I slept all day. And really, I'm not a bad employee. I just don't strive to be an excellent employee. There's absolutely no incentive to. No incentive? You aren't getting paid?
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 No incentive? You aren't getting paid? No difference in pay between the best worker and the worst. No bonuses either.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 No difference in pay between the best worker and the worst. No bonuses either. Why should that matter? You are getting paid, and if you are a provincial enforcement officer like it sounds like, you are getting paid well. As a matter of personal integrity and professional pride employees should give their best effort everyday. What's the point of a life of mediocrity, doing the minimum required to keep a job?
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Why should that matter? You are getting paid, and if you are a provincial enforcement officer like it sounds like, you are getting paid well. As a matter of personal integrity and professional pride employees should give their best effort everyday. What's the point of going of a life of mediocrity, doing the minimum required to keep a job? Every day the entire facility is staffed for each employee to perform particular tasks so that everything is being taken care of. So if I go above and beyond and do extra work, I'm actually doing someone else's job. And I'm a Correctional Officer, a Provincial employee. I'm not a Provincial Enforcement Officer, I've actually never heard that term before.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 An employee that has had enough can leave (default on contract in Bautista's case... penalties apply) or demand a trade. If you're telling me that Bautista should go the Halladay route and shut up publically while privately demanding a trade, no thanks.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Whistleblowing is a completely different matter. You're confused (you may not understand what's meant by the term, I would suspect) Also, you're confused about the original issue. No one has an issue (that I know of), with holding management accountable. They just, like mature adults, think it should be handled internally. So, you're squawking about something that isn't the issue. The issue is taking it public. I'm quite sure the media would be intrigued by stories of incompetence in the government (if that's where you work). Where specifically is the incompetence?
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Personal pride and integrity. Employees that don't exhibit that, are no longer employees in my world. I take pride in what I'm asked to do. Not what else I can do.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 If you're telling me that Bautista should go the Halladay route and shut up publically while privately demanding a trade, no thanks. Roy Halladay, pure yes man = stooge
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 No difference in pay between the best worker and the worst. No bonuses either. So this is where this is all coming from. Just quit and join the circus.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Ah, sparky ... I have no idea where the incompetence is. YOU were the one saying it was super awesome when fellow employees called out management in your employ. Too funny. Corrections has a long history of promoting incompetence.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 'Kay. What does that have to do with ... anyf***ingthing? Dude ... stay focused. It's like talking to my 4 year old (my 6 year old has grown out of this ... perhaps you will too). Incompetence. Remember you were talking about it, for whatever reason. And I don't care about your f***ing kids. Don't care if they live, don't care if they get annihilated in a car accident.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 So, then, you're saying you have an incentive to be incompetent? Why aren't you speaking out? Why should I? Should I strive to help inmates become better "people", or should I strive to help incompetent managers out? It's a lose lose situation. So I help myself out, doing what I'm asked.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 So your claim is that an excellent employee would "do other people's work"? An excellent employee would be doing the job hardcore by the book. I'm not looking to make my day harder and a peer's easier.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 And I'm still waiting for these press clippings of your co-workers taking managers to task via media outlets. http://www.podcasts.com/the-matt-holmes-show-am900-chml/episode/the-barton-st.-jail-is-in-the-news-again-may-8 http://www.lfpress.com/2014/09/03/one-manager-and-five-correctional-officers-fired-at-elgin-middlesex-detention-centre-after-adam-kargus-death http://www.lfpress.com/2014/09/29/unrest-building-at-elgin-middlesex-detention-centre http://london.ctvnews.ca/http://london.ctvnews.ca/management-at-emdc-refuses-to-conduct-searches-of-jail-leading-to-more-labour-strife-1.1995741 http://london.ctvnews.ca/correctional-officers-relieved-of-their-duties-by-management-at-emdc-1.1995312
LongTimeReader Verified Member Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 OK.... this is just getting disturbing now. Battling it out on the internet... grow up.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 OK.... this is just getting disturbing now. Really? There's so much more I could talk about.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 How would doing things hardcore by the book make your day harder, and your peer's easier, if you're assigned specific tasks to do, and you're only responsible for those? It's pretty obvious that you're right where you belong. At least for a few hours every working day. If I don't do things by the book, then I'm doing less work. If I don't wanna be a go-getter, I don't say I'm done my tasks find me something else to do.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 So you have a nothing job, and you half-ass it (and that's being generous) in that job. And you're worried about anyone else being called out, for anything, other than criminal behavior?!? Get the f*** out of here. No, seriously. Not to mention, you make no sense. If you did things by the book, you'd have more work to do. And since that's all about your individual task, you wouldn't be helping anyone else out ... just completing your task, the right way. You wouldn't be helping anyone else ... you'd be too busy doing your own work, the way it's supposed to be done. Don't know if you meant to say that (because you're not very literate), but that's what you conveyed. You keep hanging around message boards, and I'll keep doing what I'm doing.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 So you have a nothing job, and you half-ass it (and that's being generous) in that job. As for my job, I babysit low-lifes and I'm managed by people who put every special interest group they can think of ahead of an improved Correctional environment, so my motivation to do so much more is driven by what? As for "half-assing it", my assigned tasks are completed on a daily basis. Not to mention, you make no sense. If you did things by the book, you'd have more work to do. Correct And since that's all about your individual task, you wouldn't be helping anyone else out ... just completing your task, the right way. I try to get through my day without issues. You wouldn't be helping anyone else ... you'd be too busy doing your own work, the way it's supposed to be done. I help people out all the time. Not sure where you got that from. Don't know if you meant to say that (because you're not very literate), but that's what you conveyed. I am literate.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 Moogy there is something f***ing wrong with you. You need a psychiatrist or something. You supposedly have this family with young children and I presume the responsibilities that come with that like having a job and keeping your home from falling apart. Yet you choose to spend hours a day on this site arguing nonsense and depriving your kids of your time. s*** that doesn't even matter on a board with other people who share a common interest of leisure (fan of a sports team). Not even debating something worthwhile like politics or science or something. Although I have this feeling you spend even more time arguing s*** like that on various other forums. Who cares what some random guy's job is or how he does it. Do you even have a clue what a correctional officer's job entails or what is considered a "good job"? I don't either but from years of watching Oz and Orange Is The New Black I'll take a guess. Yelling at criminals to behave, staring at a lot of hairy bare *******s for drugs and occasionally depriving a pedophile's basic human rights for kicks. There's nothing out of that list that implies one has to go above and beyond the call of duty. Just avoid getting AIDS from too close contact with the junkies and make sure any prospective escapees are shot down before they get to the public roads.
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