GATC Verified Member Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) If by chance anyone can help, I would appreciate it. What is the best way to determine an individual players offensive ability vs RHP and LHP? I'm thinking wRC+ and looking at the last 3 years of data vs. LHP and vs. RHP, respectively. What about new players? I don't think this data is available on Fangraphs (minor league stats and wRC+ vs LHP / RHP). Edited July 10, 2014 by GATC
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Are you asking like... if they bat right or left handed? Because that's super easy to find... http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4720&position=3B (picking a random player out of a hat...) Chase Headley Birthdate: 5/9/1984 (30 y, 2 m, 1 d) Bats/Throws: B/R <-- right there. If you're asking something else, I'm not getting it so you may have to elaborate.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Handedness, as in how "handy" or useful they are?
GATC Verified Member Posted July 10, 2014 Author Posted July 10, 2014 I'm looking to evaluate their overall offensive ability vs LHP and RHP (using something like wRC+). In particular new players that don't have much major league data.
Governator Community Moderator Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Sounds like if a player is worth being platooned vs everyday. Last 3 years maybe, but it depends on plate appearances. Need a large enough sample size.
GATC Verified Member Posted July 10, 2014 Author Posted July 10, 2014 Sounds like if a player is worth being platooned vs everyday. Last 3 years maybe, but it depends on plate appearances. Need a large enough sample size. Yeah, agree. Is there any way to get this type of data from their minor league stats??
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 I'm looking to evaluate their overall offensive ability vs LHP and RHP (using something like wRC+). In particular new players that don't have much major league data. Both Fangraphs and Baseball reference provide RHP/LHP splits. There's splits tabs in both baseball reference and Frangraphs but they are not available for MiLB data. Also you should note that sadly neither Fangraphs or Baseball Reference provide regressed splits. Basically what unregressed means is that the sample is too small to be considered normalized so to minimize SSS distortion you should assume average splits for whatever number of PAs are missing to normalize. Nox beats this drum a lot but until the major sites provide the regressed splits, I don't see what choice anyone has but to use the unregressed splits. I suppose to make him happy you should put an asterisk on any unregressed splits you quote.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 http://minorleaguecentral.com/ Holly s***! What a gold mine.
GATC Verified Member Posted July 10, 2014 Author Posted July 10, 2014 Both Fangraphs and Baseball reference provide RHP/LHP splits. There's splits tabs in both baseball reference and Frangraphs but they are not available for MiLB data. Also you should note that sadly neither Fangraphs or Baseball Reference provide regressed splits. Basically what unregressed means is that the sample is too small to be considered normalized so to minimize SSS distortion you should assume average splits for whatever number of PAs are missing to normalize. Nox beats this drum a lot but until the major sites provide the regressed splits, I don't see what choice anyone has but to use the unregressed splits. I suppose to make him happy you should put an asterisk on any unregressed splits you quote. Thanks. What do you/he consider too small a sample?
GATC Verified Member Posted July 10, 2014 Author Posted July 10, 2014 Too bad minorleaguecentral.com doesn't provide wRC/wRC+, I guess I'll switch to wOBA
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Thanks. What do you/he consider too small a sample? Well I don't really have an opinion on the matter but apparently the normalized sample need to be quite large according to experts. Nox posted a Fangraphs link explaining it yesterday. I'll see if I can dig it up.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Well I don't really have an opinion on the matter but apparently the normalized sample need to be quite large according to experts. Nox posted a Fangraphs link explaining it yesterday. I'll see if I can dig it up. Cool. Googled "Regressed Platoon Splits Fangraphs" and found it immediately: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/estimating-hitter-platoon-skill/
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