The one and only Masahiro Tanaka posting and bidding thread

[Sammy225]

Maybe, but I've never had an atheist come to my door with spiel and "literature" that's meant to alter my world view. Also there aren't many places designed for atheists to gather and preach to reinforce their beliefs, besides maybe the science faculties of educational institutions lol

 

I would compare religious people to J-dubs. They are a completely different kind of animal lol.

[connorp]

Maybe, but I've never had an atheist come to my door with spiel and "literature" that's meant to alter my world view. Also there aren't many places designed for atheists to gather and preach to reinforce their beliefs, besides maybe the science faculties of educational institutions lol

 

I dont think you would find many even there. I dont know if atheists are the most researched in the matter. I think most scientists highly doubt God..but from what we know..i dont think many take the step of completely dismiss it.

 

Thats what i found to be true reading up on it

[Dr. Dinger]

To Dinger:

 

So how did the universe come to be. Getting nothing from nothing.. And from then., everything had such a precise order and one law.

 

I mean theres theories out there but i think one should feel secure with their belief in that regard befofe dismissing anything supernatural

 

I actually don't believe in a "universe," so much as I believe in a multiverse. Universes condense, explode, expand, and then probably collapse back under their own gravity to repeat the process. I believe there are a near infinite number of universes repeating this process in a larger entity (a multiverse), similar to bubbles an an Aero bar. I wouldn't even hazard a guess as to what initiated the multiverse, but I'm sure it doesn't resemble a human or give a s*** about our existence, in much the same way we don't know or care about every quark or gluon in nuclear reactions that we initiate. To presume that there is a higher power is natural and logical, but to assume that said higher power is humanoid and concerned with Earthly affairs is, in my opinion, the height of vanity.

[Sammy225]

I actually don't believe in a "universe," so much as I believe in a multiverse. Universes condense, explode, expand, and then probably collapse back under their own gravity to repeat the process. I believe there are a near infinite number of universes repeating this process in a larger entity (a multiverse), similar to bubbles an an Aero bar. I wouldn't even hazard a guess as to what initiated the multiverse, but I'm sure it doesn't resemble a human or give a s*** about our existence, in much the same way we don't know or care about every quark or gluon in nuclear reactions that we initiate. To presume that there is a higher power is natural and logical, but to assume that said higher power is humanoid and concerned with Earthly affairs is, in my opinion, the height of vanity.

 

Well, I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.

[LunchBox]

David Robertson is a top-5 reliever in baseball.

 

He's definitely top-10. In the context of responding to a poster who claims the Yankees still need a closer, top-5 is probably an acceptable statement lol

[Dr. Dinger]

Well, I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.

 

Nothing has any meaning and all is chaos and entropy, so I agree your hedonistic attitude. The best you can do is to seize pleasure at every opportunity. The afterlife is a ******** concept that people buy into because they're too scared to enjoy the physical life.

[Atothe]

Not a top 5 reliever lol.

 

Uehara

Holland

Kimbrel

Chapman

Jansen (Kenley)

Rosenthal

Grilli

Melancon

Herrera

Romo

Farquhar

Delabar

 

I would put all above Robertson.

 

Stop it

 

Jansen (Kenley)

Rosenthal

Grilli

Melancon

Herrera

Romo

Farquhar

Delabar

 

I wouldn't put any of them over robertson even with my yankees dislike of his yankeeiness

[Dr. Dinger]

Wat.

 

Kenley over Robertson is a tomahawk slam dunk.

[Atothe]

Nothing has any meaning and all is chaos and entropy, so I agree your hedonistic attitude. The best you can do is to seize pleasure at every opportunity. The afterlife is a ******** concept that people buy into because they're too scared to enjoy the physical life.

 

get over yourself, whether they believe in a deity or not is not of any consequence to you

[Atothe]

Wat.

 

Kenley over Robertson is a tomahawk slam dunk.

 

no it isn't, you're extremely full of it today

[connorp]

Another fascinating this is near death experiences and out of body experiences..

 

I mean, you have to weed out the majority of crackpots who could just as likely say they kidnapped by aliens..

 

But the intelligent, established people who may or may not havd been religious when it happened..

 

But at the very least, something clearly triggers in the brain to make that vision...not claiming its aupernatural but the stories are a fun read

[jaysblue]

Kimbrel

Holland

Jansen

Chapman

Nathan

Uehera

Rosenthal

 

After Kimbrel, Holland, Jansen and Chapman (those are my top 4 for sure), there could be cases made for everyone after. I definitely consider Robertson an elite reliever - likely a Top 10 guy, though he would be a borderline Top 5 guy in my books. I'd likely take him over Nathan and Uehera since he's younger, though over Rosenthal I'd have to think long and hard about.

[Dr. Dinger]

get over yourself, whether they believe in a deity or not is not of any consequence to you

 

That's exactly the point, it's not of any consequence to me. I don't have any interest at all in converting a bunch of deluded sheep to atheism, there's nothing in it for me.

[jaysblue]

Wat.

 

Kenley over Robertson is a tomahawk slam dunk.

 

I'd take Kenley over Robertson any day for sure. Jansen is two years younger and has been Craig Kimbrel 1A over the past two seasons.

[jaysblue]

Not according to their last 3 seasons. Or Steamer. Or Oliver.

 

I like DrDinger's view more than Steamer or Oliver on that one. I'd take Jansen over Robertson easily.

[Dr. Dinger]

no it isn't, you're extremely full of it today

 

Apparently you don't know what FIP is. Also, I don't really think you're in any position to judge how full of it I am today in relation to other days.

[Dr. Dinger]

I'd take Kenley over Robertson any day for sure. Jansen is two years younger and has been Craig Kimbrel 1A over the past two seasons.

 

His K% and FIP are godly. Kenley Jansen may in fact be a deity.

[jaysblue]

Not a top 5 reliever lol.

 

Uehara

Holland

Kimbrel

Chapman

Jansen (Kenley)

Rosenthal

Grilli

Melancon

Herrera

Romo

Farquhar

Delabar

 

I would put all above Robertson.

 

Meh, I'd take Robertson over Grilli, Melancon, Herrera, Farquhar and Delabar. I would have a tough time deciding between Romo and Rosenthal vs. Robertson, though I'd likely take Romo (due to experience and excellent BB rates) and Rosenthal (5 years younger, 100 + K's this past season) over Robertson. So with that being the case, I'd likely have Robertson somewhere near the back end of my top 10 list of relievers.

[Abomination]

To Dinger:

 

So how did the universe come to be. Getting nothing from nothing.. And from then., everything had such a precise order and one law.l

 

That assumes that it did indeed come from nothing, but I believe at least some current theories do not make this assumption. KCJaysFan would probably be able to explain it better than I can though.

 

I believe one of the theories (based on string theory) suggest that it started as a 9 dimensional string with confined dimensions of equal size. Interactions with strings wound in the opposite direction (anti-strings) caused the string to stop confining three of those dimensions (in a process similar to matter/antimatter reactions), which released the dimensions and allowed them to expand outwards. A second theory suggests that the universe was created by a collision between two infinite 3-branes (structures containing 3 out of a certain number of allowable, in this case infinite, dimensions I think. This is getting way outside my comfort area). The energy generated by the collision creates the construct of the universe, pushing the branes apart. The resulting universe goes through phases, beginning with the big bang, then a period dominated by radiation, then matter (our period), then dark energy, then a contraction phase.

 

Like I said though, KCJaysFan may be able to better explain it / correct me on it.

 

Regardless, I don't have a problem with (serious) religion as I think a lot of people need to have something to believe in. Without that, society would probably crumble. That doesn't mean that everyone needs it. It doesn't mean that if you believe in these theories you can't also believe in God. My personal opinion is that if I have to believe in something that is essentially eternal (either by definition or by operating outside the laws of our universe), that I choose to believe there is some kind of intelligence behind it. I don't however believe that everything that happens in day to day life does so for some greater purpose.

[Abomination]

I like DrDinger's view more than Steamer or Oliver on that one. I'd take Jansen over Robertson easily.

 

I'd probably take Jansen over everyone except Kimbrel and Chapman. Koji and Holland would likely round it out.

[jaysblue]

As a Romo owner, I'd take Robertson easily. Steadily declining K-rate and DIPS, velo down to like 87, and he throws a slider 50% of the time or more.

 

I still love him irrationally though.

 

Yeah, Romo's slight decline this season worries me, so I'd probably prefer Robertson. I'd still take Rosenthal over him however. Shocked Grilli, Farquhar and Delabar were mentioned as better relievers than Roberston though.

[jaysblue]

I'd probably take Jansen over everyone except Kimbrel and Chapman. Koji and Holland would likely round it out.

 

My top 5 would likely be Kimbrel, Jansen, Holland, Chapman and Rosenthal. Even Koji or Nathan would be tough to leave out. Regardless, to each's own I suppose lol.

[Abomination]

My top 5 would likely be Kimbrel, Jansen, Holland, Chapman and Rosenthal. Even Koji or Nathan would be tough to leave out. Regardless, to each's own I suppose lol.

 

Koji's numbers are completely insane. His age is a concern, but man alive can he pitch. I mean, last year he had a .565 WHIP and a k/bb ratio of over 11! How does that even happen?

[Dr. Dinger]

Koji's numbers are completely insane. His age is a concern, but man alive can he pitch. I mean, last year he had a .565 WHIP and a k/bb ratio of over 11! How does that even happen?

 

It's pretty remarkable given his below average fastball. The splitter is incredible and so is his command.

[jaysblue]

Koji's numbers are completely insane. His age is a concern, but man alive can he pitch. I mean, last year he had a .565 WHIP and a k/bb ratio of over 11! How does that even happen?

 

If Koji was a lot younger - he'd likely be my clear cut No. 2 behind Kimbrel. Like you said, his age is a concern - though he can pitch. One of my favourites.

[jaysblue]

Love dem crafty azn pitchers.

 

Micheal Nakamura!

[Atothe]

If Koji was a lot younger - he'd likely be my clear cut No. 2 behind Kimbrel. Like you said, his age is a concern - though he can pitch. One of my favourites.

 

If he was younger, you'd be crazy not to take Uehara over Kimbrel. Koji was clearly the best relief pitcher last point blank period

 

edit: Kimbrel might the best relief pitcher when its all said and done though

[TheHurl]

I'm amazed how these low GB% relievers can thrive. Uehara came around a bit last year.

[kcjaysfan]

To presume that there is a higher power is [...] logical

 

No.

[Angrioter]

I'm amazed how these low GB% relievers can thrive. Uehara came around a bit last year.

 

Uehara's performance isn't sustainable; He's old