LunchBox Verified Member Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 Mulder is actually kind of interesting. Apparently he's sitting low-90s with his new delivery. Meh. He's 36 and hasn't really pitched since 2006, I don't know if there's any kind of precedent for a player that old making a comeback after such a long absence. Jason Knapp please!
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 Right?..lol..guy either didnt get done by day end or maybe needed a part. Alomar comes off as a douchebag. Prob knows nothing of contract work, just walks around in suit trying to be important While spitting at people possibly Oops, sorry. Shouldn't mention that. Alomar being best ever blah blah blah.
LunchBox Verified Member Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 While spitting at people possibly Oops, sorry. Shouldn't mention that. Alomar being best ever blah blah blah. During the first series vs BOS this year, I sat in the box next to him and can understand why he might rub some people the wrong way. Still, I can't imagine the people at Rogers are too impressed with the technician that leaves their HOFer's installation partially completed only to have him tweet about it.
Jays Verified Member Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 Oops, sorry. Shouldn't mention that. Alomar being best ever blah blah blah. The best ever? I thought that was Goins?
LunchBox Verified Member Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 Cubs sign Veras. Never really thought CHC were realistic trade partner for Jansen, even as part of a package, but that's off the table for sure now.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 During the first series vs BOS this year, I sat in the box next to him and can understand why he might rub some people the wrong way. Still, I can't imagine the people at Rogers are too impressed with the technician that leaves their HOFer's installation partially completed only to have him tweet about it. I would assume Rogers wouldnt want that tweeted as it hurts their charity org's cred.. Or at least makes it look bad.. for something that was prob percectly explainabld Alomar is more than likely just a blissfully unaware douche.
kcjaysfan Verified Member Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/12/minor-moves-donald-mesa.html Melky Mesa sounds like one of those names in baseball games where they just randomly mash a first and last name together.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/12/minor-moves-donald-mesa.html Melky Mesa sounds like one of those names in baseball games where they just randomly mash a first and last name together. He's not big deal as a ballplayer
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Yasiel Puig charged with reckless driving this morning Caught going 110 MPH in his Mercedes Nice...
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Yasiel Puig charged with reckless driving this morning Caught going 110 MPH in his Mercedes Nice... Boo. Jealous cop. 110 in Mercedes is very smooth. Any nice car is like that. Crap overcharge
Jays Verified Member Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Yasiel Puig charged with reckless driving this morning Caught going 110 MPH in his Mercedes Nice... He was trying to see if he could drive faster than he could throw.
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Yasiel Puig charged with reckless driving this morning Caught going 110 MPH in his Mercedes Nice... He heard that Jadeveon Clowney was trying to outdo him
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 He was trying to see if he could drive faster than he could throw.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Johan Santana close to signing with a team Once a dominate pitcher, Johan Santana has battled injuries and it has caused his career to not be as promising as it once seemed. Since 2010, he has pitched in 316 innings. He last pitched in 2012 and is now looking to comeback this year. Santana is close to signing with a team on a minor-league contract, according to Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe. He says that there has been speculation that it could be the Minnesota Twins, as he grew up in Fort Myers, Fla., where they play Spring Training. Other teams who have shown interest are the Tampa Bay Rays, Baltimore Orioles, Kansas City Royals, Milwaukee Brewers, Pittsburgh Pirates, New York Yankees and New York Mets, according to Andrew Marchand of ESPN New York. With the Mets in 2012, Santana went 6-9 with a 4.85 ERA and a 111/39 strikeout-to-walk ratio. Any team that signs Santana knows that he won't be the pitcher he once was, but still is a solid option for them if he makes the team.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Huh..i thought JS would get Something better than minor deal. Thought maybe like 1/3 easy. His medicals prob look like chewed horsemeat though
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Johan Santana close to signing with a team Once a dominate pitcher, Johan Santana has battled injuries and it has caused his career to not be as promising as it once seemed. Since 2010, he has pitched in 316 innings. He last pitched in 2012 and is now looking to comeback this year. Santana is close to signing with a team on a minor-league contract, according to Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe. He says that there has been speculation that it could be the Minnesota Twins, as he grew up in Fort Myers, Fla., where they play Spring Training. Other teams who have shown interest are the Tampa Bay Rays, Baltimore Orioles, Kansas City Royals, Milwaukee Brewers, Pittsburgh Pirates, New York Yankees and New York Mets, according to Andrew Marchand of ESPN New York. With the Mets in 2012, Santana went 6-9 with a 4.85 ERA and a 111/39 strikeout-to-walk ratio. Any team that signs Santana knows that he won't be the pitcher he once was, but still is a solid option for them if he makes the team. Santana would be an interesting reclamation project at this point, especially on a minor league deal. There's really nothing to lose, and there's an outside shot that he has another solid year left in him. On a side note, I'd welcome Grady Sizemore with open arms on a similar deal, or another low-risk deal of the same nature - incentive-laden, low-base one year major league deal (with a possible option year at the end).
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Santana would be an interesting reclamation project at this point, especially on a minor league deal. There's really nothing to lose, and there's an outside shot that he has another solid year left in him. On a side note, I'd welcome Grady Sizemore with open arms on a similar deal, or another low-risk deal of the same nature - incentive-laden, low-base one year major league deal (with a possible option year at the end). Not to beat a dead horse..but this is definitely not a guy thats coming to RC. KC would be my pick.. Guys like GS sure.. But not pitchers looking to establish value
GD Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 I would like Santana on a minor league deal. Which means it'll never happen, lol.
LunchBox Verified Member Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 On a 4 seam fastball (not a two seamer), what do you guys think the percentage of velocity to movement (magnitude) would ideally be? For example you say I think a good fastball is 85% velocity and (therefore) 15% movement. I have the mathematical answer, but wanted to see what people thought. That`s interesting. Having seen guys throw in the upper 90s with no movement get squared up with relative ease I`m guessing movement accounts for more than 15%. At the risk of hazarding a truly terrible guess I`ll say 70/30 velocity/movement?
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 On a 4 seam fastball (not a two seamer), what do you guys think the percentage of velocity to movement (magnitude) would ideally be? For example you say I think a good fastball is 85% velocity and (therefore) 15% movement. I have the mathematical answer, but wanted to see what people thought. I'm confused by where the percentages would even be coming from. Are they just arbitrary percentages that represent importance? Or is it, X% of run prevention can be explained by velocity, in general, and only X% can be explained by movement. But if that's the case, why are they summing to 100% - where is control? I'm pretty sure I've read that the order of importance in terms of effectiveness is: Velocity >>> Control >>> Movement But, the specific importance ratio is probably different for every pitcher. For Mark Buehrle, fastball control is a f***ton more important than it is for Aroldis Chapman.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Say velocity and movement (control ignored) are in z-score format. What ratio gives the best R^2 to pitch value? (In general) Ok, that makes sense to me now. I'll let myself be anchored by your example and say something very velo heavy. 90/10 would be my guess, but I'm thinking even that might place too much significance on movement.
kcjaysfan Verified Member Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 On a 4 seam fastball (not a two seamer), what do you guys think the percentage of velocity to movement (magnitude) would ideally be? For example you say I think a good fastball is 85% velocity and (therefore) 15% movement. I have the mathematical answer, but wanted to see what people thought. I'm not sure I even understand what you're asking. The percentage of what? By velocity, I assume you actually mean speed, since velocity is a vector, and would include what I think you mean by movement.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 What the hell, I'll bite. 98% velocity to 2% movement.
kcjaysfan Verified Member Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Baseball terms usually just use velocity when it's really speed. I know, and my jimmies get rustled. Every. Goddamn. Time.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Someone's already nailed it. Now what about a two-seamer? I don't think movement variance within the 2-seamer bin would have any more effect than movement within the 4-seamer bin. If movement from a 2-seamer has an impact on pitch value, then, generally speaking, it probably matters when looking at that movement relative to 4 seam movement. Just like a changeup plays off a fastball, a 2seamer plays off of a hitter expecting a 4seamer. So I guess it would depend on how you did the analysis here?
LunchBox Verified Member Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 It`s probably meant to be evaluated in isolation, not relative to other pitches.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 This is right! Nice! I had a feeling it would be low, but didn't know if it would be that low. Straight pitch is straight.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 It does, huge difference. I didn't do it comparatively to fastball since that would also depend on frequency of the pitch. For example, Buehrle never throws a fastball. Interesting. Answer plz
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