Phillies shopping Lee and Hamels

[G-Snarls]

Oh boy

 

[Ehjays]

You take oneyou also must take ryan Howard

[G-Snarls]

You take oneyou also must take ryan Howard

 

Amaro Jr wishes

 

#50MillionDollarSalaryDump

[jays4life19]

Yes please to Cole Hammels.

[z3r0s]

trade the farm for Lee AND Hamels! Just go balls deep!

[G-Snarls]

trade the farm for Lee AND Hamels! Just go balls deep!

 

But we don't have Arencibia and his 20-25 HR power to trade anymore!!!

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Too expensive. Hamels is about to turn 30 too. 100% pass.

[NorthOf49]

Cole Hamels <3

 

Go for it AA!

[G-Snarls]

Mmmm, I dunno.

 

Rest of Hamels contract:

 

2014 30 Philadelphia Phillies $22,500,000

2015 31 Philadelphia Phillies $22,500,000

2016 32 Philadelphia Phillies $22,500,000

2017 33 Philadelphia Phillies $22,500,000

2018 34 Philadelphia Phillies $22,500,000

2019 35 Philadelphia Phillies *$20,000,000 $20M Team Option, $24M Vesting Option Vests if he 1) has 400 IP in 2017-18, including 200 IP in 2018, and 2) is not on the disabled list with a shoulder or elbow injury at the end of the 2018 season

 

Rest of Lee's contract:

 

2014 35 Philadelphia Phillies $25,000,000

2015 36 Philadelphia Phillies $25,000,000

2016 37 Philadelphia Phillies *$27,500,000 $27.5M Vesting Option, $12.5M Buyout option becomes guaranteed with 200 IP in 2015 or 400 IP in 2014-15

[G-Snarls]

No way AA takes on that much salary

 

BTW, Amaro sure loves them vesting options, eh?

 

Doc had a big fat one too (that didn't vest)

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Lee would be much more appealing at the current moment if it was primarily a salary dump.

 

I don't want to give up anything noteworthy for Hamels. Good pitcher but way too many dollars/years.

[HERPDERP]

Hutchison + other B crap + full salary for Lee

 

do eet?

[G-Snarls]

[JaysRap]

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/national-league/philadelphia-phillies/

 

Hefty contracts. And...

 

Cliff Lee - limited no-trade protection (may block trades to 21 clubs each season)

Cole Hamels - limited no-trade protection

[jays4life19]

We can give them the main piece of the Halladay trade back: Kyle Drabek. Seems only fair.

[Angrioter]

Hamels 200M > Ervin Santana 80M

[G-Snarls]

They really, really should trade all of Lee, Hamels, Pappelbon, Howard and Rollins

 

They have zero chance of being even decent in 2014

 

Time to tear it down

[jays4life19]

Yay or Nay?

 

Jays get: Hamels and Lee. No money.

Philies get: Aaron Sanchez, Mark Buerhle, Rickey Romero.

[G-Snarls]

Yay or Nay?

 

Jays get: Hamels and Lee. No money.

Philies get: Aaron Sanchez, Mark Buerhle, Rickey Romero.

 

Doesn't really compute

[NorthOf49]

Lee would be much more appealing at the current moment if it was primarily a salary dump.

 

I don't want to give up anything noteworthy for Hamels. Good pitcher but way too many dollars/years.

Hamels is a super-durable 30 year old ace on a reasonable contract. Remarkably consistent too.

 

I'd give up half the farm. He's exactly what we need.

[Ehjays]

I'll take hamels and utley

[saskjayfan]

They really, really should trade all of Lee, Hamels, Pappelbon, Howard and Rollins

 

They have zero chance of being even decent in 2014

 

Time to tear it down

 

makes you wonder why they extended utley

[aselvana]

if the projected cap for us is around 150 m, we can only afford one of them. (im so smart) hopefully its lee

[G-Snarls]

I'll take hamels and utley

 

No THAT is an all in move

 

AA wants to do it too I guarantee

 

He will see that as his "MgGriff and Fernandez for Carter and Alomar" move

[G-Snarls]

makes you wonder why they extended utley

 

They have absolutely no idea what direction to go. It's ridiculous.

[G-Snarls]

[G-Snarls]

Chase Utley:

 

2014 35 Philadelphia Phillies $15,000,000

2015 36 Philadelphia Phillies $10,000,000 2015 salary increases by $5M to $15M with 15 days or less on dis list with knee injury in 2014

2016 37 Philadelphia Phillies *$15,000,000 $15M Vesting Option option guaranteed with 500 plate appearance in previous season

2017 38 Philadelphia Phillies *$15,000,000 $15M Vesting Option option guaranteed with 500 plate appearance in previous season

2018 39 Philadelphia Phillies *$15,000,000 $15M Vesting Option option guaranteed with 500 plate appearance in previous season

[GeorgiaPeach]

They really, really should trade all of Lee, Hamels, Pappelbon, Howard and Rollins

 

They have zero chance of being even decent in 2014

 

Time to tear it down

 

And to think we'll be there soon. And even the intelligent people on the forum are clamouring for a playoff berth at the expense of a demolished team for a half decade.

 

Saweeeeet!!!

[G-Snarls]

'Dem vesting options!

[eastcoastjaysfan]

makes you wonder why they extended utley

 

RAJ seems to wake up with a new direction evey single day.

 

The guy is a disaster of a GM. Easily one of the worst, if not the worst, GM of the last decade. It's tragic what he turned Gillick's team into.