McCann close long-term deal with the Yankees

[Angrioter]

chronicle of a death foretold!

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/11/brian-mccann-on-verge-of-deal-with-yankees.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[Abomination]

A catcher like McCann hitting in that stadium is just unfair lol. I wonder how it will affect the Yankees getting under the cap?

[Angrioter]

[Angrioter]

This will have a boatload of implications for the FAP Contest. Part Two will kick off, and TBJ12 will be the first to six Part One points (two correct picks).

 

points for everybody, right?

[Angrioter]

http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=31232977&query=brian%2Bkenny

[Angrioter]

I suck!!.......Switch to the Yankees for the Rangers in the last minute.

[John_Havok]

Yeah I only had three teams on my dartboard for that toss, Rangers, Red Sox and Yankees, and I came up rangers. My darts aren't proving very prophetic so far

[Angrioter]

http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=409&d=1385246267

 

 

Avg catcher .319/.394 (OBP, SLG) ----> JPA really suck

[Abomination]

I kind of expected the Yankees to stick with the in-house options. It would be better that they did - demand seems to be greater than supply for catching help right now.

 

In many ways, they'd probably be better off going after Russell Martin next off-season.

[Angrioter]

 

5Ys, ~17AAV

[Dr. Dinger]

Gattis owners rejoice!

[Stangstag]

You guys should understand that we don't have 17 mil to spend on a catcher. All our money needs to be put into the rotation. We can trade for a cheap catcher like Hannigan.

[BlueJayWay]

We still have JPA.

[Abomination]

That's an $18M AAV.

 

could be 5/80 plus some options

[Angrioter]

5/17 = jays4life19 (jp for dh guy)

 

5/18avv

[Abomination]

Let's all thank the Rockies for making the Yankees pay more!

[admin]

Alex do something

 

- Brian, we're looking at $12M for two years. How is that does that sound?

- Brian?

- Brian, you getting my texts or what?

[The_DH]

Good for him.

[BlueJayWay]

fap contest?

[Randy The Robot]

C: Murphy/McCann 1B: Tex 2B: Kelly Johnson SS: Jeter/Ryan LF: Soriano CF: Gardner RF: Beltran DH: McCann/whomever I dig it.

[admin]

Anyone care to join me in guessing where the other relevant dominoes fall?

 

Bos - Saltalamacchia

Tex - Pierzynski

TB - Molina

 

I guess that leaves us, Atl, Min, and Col to fight over Hanigan or settle for a below-average FA.

 

Quick, name me a catcher that had a good year a couple years ago, has been terrible since, but will cost a lot in a trade.

That's who AA is targeting right now.

[admin]

You guys should understand that we don't have 17 mil to spend on a catcher. All our money needs to be put into the rotation. We can trade for a cheap catcher like Hannigan.

 

We could have had much more than $17M, if we didn't make idiotic decisions.

[GD]

Bos - Saltalamacchia

 

They didn't want to offer Ruiz a third year, they're not gonna give Salty his 3-4 years I don't think.

[GD]

Here's what I said about McCann elsewhere.

 

He'll need to put up something like 9.4 WAR or ~1.8 a year over the life of the contract. Steamer has him at 3.6 wins next year which would be paying 5 million/win which is pretty nice, covers a good deal of the contract (38% or so). If you project him at like a 0.5 win decline, he'd provide $32 million in surplus value. Although I don't know if that's too conservative, cause who knows if he can stick at catcher and that gives him like a win's worth of value, and if he moves to DH that would be going from +12.5 runs/600 to -17.5 runs/600. That's a few wins. Putting it in perspective, if he had DH'd this year and had a full season, he would have been worth approximately 1 win.

 

TL;DR could be a nice contract but needs to stick at catcher for it to be mostly worth it which seems unlikely.

[G-Snarls]

How much less likely does this make it that they sign Cano?

[GD]

What market win value did you use?

 

9. I think.

[z3r0s]

I am fine with this as a McCann owner.

[Angrioter]

Yep you did. I don't really trust the Shapiro number since we don't know how he came up with it. $6.5M or so seems more realistic.

 

9 million is a bit much; 7.5 millions is fair (Chris Young money)

[GD]

Yep you did. I don't really trust the Shapiro number since we don't know how he came up with it or what it applies to (probably a proprietary metric). $6.5M or so seems more realistic.

 

I wrote the post in roughly 4 and a half minutes and most people where I originally posted that don't understand DIPS or anything beyond ERA so meh. I always figured it was been 5 and 9, like 7 or something. But I've never really used that as a figure cause it's arbitrary.

[GD]

I actually kind of like this for New York. Not a lot of surplus potential, but that isn't everything, especially to New York. They needed a catcher and got a very good one on a deal that doesn't break the bank. Have him catch 100 games a year, maybe play some 1B and I think they'll be satisfied. That short RF porch will suit him just fine.

 

Yeah, pretty much my appraisal of it as well. He just needs to stay healthy-ish.