dineke Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 some AL East predictions ECJF: Jays Rays Yankees Sox Orioles (will lose at least 90) Gsnarls - Jays are the favourites Yankees will not finish last, no way Tampa/NYY will fight for 2nd/wildcard 4/5 will be Red Sox who are ready to compete in 2013 and the Orioles, while no longer garbage, will settle a little under .500 BTS - New York Toronto Tampa Bay Boston Baltimore Leaffie - Jays Yankees Rays Sox Orioles Jim Canuck - Rays Jays Yankees Orioles Sox Angrioter - Jays Rays Yankees Red Sox O's (72-90) Grant - Toronto New York Tampa Bay Boston Baltimore Me - Rays Yankees Sox Jays O's. No team over 93 wins, no team under 80. Dineke - 1. Red Sox 2. Yankees 3. Rays 4. Orioles 5. Blue Jays RKF - Yankees Red Sox Rays Jays Orioles Oakville69 - Jays should win 90-95 games , probably 94. Yankees & rays will compete for 2nd place & wild card spot. I assume the Orioles luck from last year will run out, & the red sox will be better but it will be fun to wach the Boston media tear Farrell apart every time they lose a game based on his managerial style. Chappy - Jays Yankees Rays Red Sox Orioles Stangstag - I think Boston's offense will be on par with ours. However, our rotation is MILES ahead of Boston's. How exactly do they finish 6 games ahead of us? High85 - 1. Yankees 95-67 2. Red Sox 92-70 (Jays fans are fooling themselves, thickheadedly assuming Boston repeats 2012. They WILL make a comeback in 2013). 3. Rays 91-71 4. Blue Jays 86-76 (which is still a very good record considering the strength of schedule) 5. Orioles 68-94 (probably a better team than record indicates, schedule hurts them DrNegative - Yankees Jays Rays Red Sox Oreos Terminator - Jays Rays Yanks Red Sox Orioles The Jays have too many talented players in their primes whereas the Rays and Yanks are relying on guys that are too young or too old. The Rays will be young but I'm betting that Myers makes an impact and Longo plays 130+ games. They're pitching is still very solid. The Yanks will have Gardner and Mo coming back but they lost Swisher and Soriano. Youk replacing A-Rod is a wash as well. They have a very, very old team and after a pretty uneventful offseason I think they take a big step back this year. All the band aid additions the Red Sox have made (along with some bounceback years from a couple of their starters) and the Sox will finish .500. I'm reserving my right to place the Orioles ahead of them depending on what happens the rest of the offseason. The Orioles will win 77-81 games and will be a very solid last placed team. DH12 - 1. Tampa 2. New York 3. Toronto 4.Baltimore 5. Boston Looks like my jays prediction was spot on. lol
4thOFan Verified Member Posted July 28, 2013 Author Posted July 28, 2013 Unlikely they sign Ellsbury imo
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 He needs to stop trying to trade for 'proven' closers, that's for sure. They signed Cody Ross with the payroll space created by trading Scutaro. Wasn't the point of the Punto trade to get rid of the albatross contracts left behind by Theo? I did say that of his few good moves the LAD salary dump was a good one.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Wasn't the point of the Punto trade to get rid of the albatross contracts left behind by Theo? I did say that of his few good moves the LAD salary dump was a good one.
4thOFan Verified Member Posted July 29, 2013 Author Posted July 29, 2013 I'm pretty surprised to hear you say that. I have no idea what he's looking for, but giving him a contract similar to Pedroia's would be a great move. What's the backup plan? Victorino can play any OF spot, and Bradley is in the system, but it doesn't seem like they're in a position to walk away from Ellsbury. Would a contract similar to Pedroia's be enough? I doubt it. I think it will take something closer to what Carl Crawford got. Plus the fact that he's a Boras client I think the Red Sox walk and go with Bradley. And I would be OK with that.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Would a contract similar to Pedroia's be enough? I doubt it. Agreed. Boras will get him something much higher imo.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Yeah, I guess it isn't fair to use that great Pedroia deal as a benchmark for what Ellsbury can expect. Even something like 7/130 and front-loaded would be a good sign IMO. He's such an important part of the team. It would suck hairy balls if Boston would signs Ellsburry at an AAV of less than $20MM per. Though Boston has a bit of leverage with the injury concerns, still though, he's younger and plays a more premium position, plus Boras.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 I hope they keep him on a fair deal. Baseball wouldn't be the same without a strong Sox team fielding Ortiz, Pedroia, and Ellsbury. That's true, but a deal like Pedroia's would really open up their wallets to bid in on someone like Garza or McCann this offseason, though I think keeping Salty wouldn't be too bad for them. They have a lot of versatility with Victorino in the OF so even if they don't resign Ellsburry, they have Victorino, Bradley Jr. and would Gomes be the other one? They could try to acquire another OF through trade though I'd be scared because Cherington doesn't really seem to trade well for needs.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 IMO they'd have to add a significant OF if Ellsbury walks. Victor into is a solid regular, and Nava and Gomes are nice insurance on Bradley as 4th/5th outfielders. Maybe Choo? Yeah Choo would make sense for them, he'd probably mash in Boston, I think their current situation with Ellsburry is a good one, either he signs a fair deal to both him and the team, or he asks for FA money, leaves, then Boston has good money coming off with the already listed players, and has a chance to offer up good money to some good FA's out there. Because their offense is always good, I still think they should pursue SP help, and maybe trying not to f*** up miserably by trading for "established bullpen help" as we all saw how great that worked out.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Yeah Choo would make sense for them, he'd probably mash in Boston, I think their current situation with Ellsburry is a good one, either he signs a fair deal to both him and the team, or he asks for FA money, leaves, then Boston has good money coming off with the already listed players, and has a chance to offer up good money to some good FA's out there. Because their offense is always good, I still think they should pursue SP help, and maybe trying not to f*** up miserably by trading for "established bullpen help" as we all saw how great that worked out. Boston has a lot of good young arms coming through the system. Webster, Barnes, Owens, 1 more guy who I cant remember right now. Also just drafted Trey Ball.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 I likely would have had Tampa coming in first, with the Jays likely in second and the Red Sox and O's flipped between 3rd or 4th. I would have thought with the Yankees roster at the beginning of the season that they'd find it tough to push .500 though Wells, Overbay, Hafner really held their ground for those 2 months haha.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Boston has a lot of good young arms coming through the system. Webster, Barnes, Owens, 1 more guy who I cant remember right now. Also just drafted Trey Ball. Are a lot of them close? I don't know too much about their system other than the obvious guys at the top of the list, would Anthony Ranaudo (sp?) be the other guy? Again at this point the only uncertainty for them is relief help which for some reason Cherington overvalues and still fails at acquiring. As things go it's probably Ellsburry or another 3rd good OF (accounting for Vic and Bradley as the other two), I see them keeping Saltalamachia, but they could be in the early bidding for McCann, they probably push hard though if they do see themselves with no starting C. How has Lester been this year? Internet too slow to check, I don't think they can survive with their current rotation unless the mentioned pitching prospects make an instant impact on the team as soon as next year.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 I say the Yankees go hard after McCann this offseason.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 I remember predicting around 88-92 wins so I'm right there with most.
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