I'll say it: WALKS ARE OVERRATED

[JSFIP]

Go ahead, disagree with me. I'm sure all of you sabermetrics idiots will instantly. It's the truth, that's all. SOOOOOOOO overrated by everyone on this board.

[theblujay]

Ban

 

Lol I wonder how long he will last.

[Caper]

I think they are important. But I would agree..... they are overrated.

[JSFIP]

Ban

 

No evidence to back this up? Hits are more important. I've been watching baseball long enough to know this. Come on man, at least try.

[JSFIP]

To everyone who disagrees, I just think it's plain that hits are more important and necessary compared to the nearly irrelevant walk. Just my opinion. Sorry for voicing it.

[JSFIP]

Walks are good bro. Walks mean you took a lot of pitches in your at bat showing good plate discipline, and you got the pitchers pitch count up to get to the pen faster. And you are getting on base.

 

Walks = Singles

 

Are singles overrated too?

 

NO obviously not. Singles test the whole team, pitchers and fielders. Walks=only test pitchers,

[theblujay]

I think they are important. But I would agree..... they are overrated.

 

Yeah they probably are a bit overrated. And batting average is probably equally underrated. But both are very important.

[JSFIP]

Yeah, a groundball single up the middle is a huge test to the team.

 

TEsts pitcher, catcher, middle infielders, outfielders, yes you proved my point. Thank you.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

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[theblujay]

Yeah, a groundball single up the middle is a huge test to the team.

 

Example: Kawasaki. He walks a lot, but can't hit. Not all that valuable. I guess you need a mix of the two.

[JSFIP]

Example: Kawasaki. He walks a lot, but can't hit. Not all that valuable. I guess you need a mix of the two.

 

Thank you. LOL get owned.

[Angrioter]

Walks are good bro. Walks mean you took a lot of pitches in your at bat showing good plate discipline, and you got the pitchers pitch count up to get to the pen faster. And you are getting on base.

 

Walks = Singles

 

Are singles overrated too?

 

lol

Single > walk

[JSFIP]

Yeah, but then there's Arencibia who can't walk or get on base for s***. What's his value?

 

What does JPA have to do with this? Oh yeah, I forgot it's a rule around here to attack him at every given opportunity. My bad I won't forget next time.

[Orgfiller]

TEsts pitcher, catcher, middle infielders, outfielders, yes you proved my point. Thank you.

 

A weak single up the middle proves nothing of the middle infielders, seeing as it was lucky for the ball to make it through a hole. Also, if you're going there, a walk on a wild pitch tests pitcher, infielders, outfielders, catchers AND the baserunner.

[theblujay]

Yeah, but then there's Arencibia who can't walk or get on base for s***. What's his value?

 

None. But he can't hit and I think OP is talking about is saying being able to hit is more important.

[Orgfiller]

TEsts pitcher, catcher, middle infielders, outfielders, yes you proved my point. Thank you.

 

A weak single up the middle proves nothing of the middle infielders, seeing as it was lucky for the ball to make it through a hole. Also, if you're going there, a walk on a wild pitch tests pitcher, infielders, outfielders, catchers AND the baserunner.

[JSFIP]

A weak single up the middle proves nothing of the middle infielders, seeing as it was lucky for the ball to make it through a hole. Also, if you're going there, a walk on a wild pitch tests pitcher, infielders, outfielders, catchers AND the baserunner.

 

So the most specific extreme example of a walk=the least strenuous single? sounds good to me!

[BlueJayWay]

Singles are on average a little better than walks because baserunners can advance in non force situations.

 

The value in walks comes from A) putting another runner on base and avoiding an out all without actually having to get a hit.

[JSFIP]

JPA has to do with this because he can't take a walk. He doesn't get on base, and his value is s***.

 

Whatever, batting average>OBP anyway

[Orgfiller]

Whatever, batting average>OBP anyway

 

Dude...

[JSFIP]

This was what I was trying to say to Angrioter, thank you

 

Not really, changing your argument again I guess..

[theblujay]

Whatever, batting average>OBP anyway

 

Oh no you're about to get destroyed

[JSFIP]

Yes it was

 

K bro

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

Whatever, batting average>OBP anyway

 

Troll.

[Abomination]

Oh no you're about to get destroyed

 

He's clearly trolling. Please stop feeding him

[JSFIP]

Walks are for faggots. Homeruns or outs.

 

Totally.

[JSFIP]

I said

 

 

 

He said

 

 

 

K bro

 

K. .

[JSFIP]

Wow, I didn't know having a different position as the people on this board made me a "troll." Sorry for the new opinion guys!!!!!

[AdamGreenwood]

Walks mean you took a lot of pitches in your at bat showing good plate discipline, and you got the pitchers pitch count up to get to the pen faster.

 

Yeah, teams are thrilled to see the end of Dickey, Johnson, and Buehrle, so that they can see the soft tossing Cecil, Delabar, and Janssen.

Taking pitches only works if the whole team buys into it, so that you can see weak middle relievers, as opposed to the setup man and the closer.

 

Having one or two guys taking pitches doesn't really help out that much. If you have an entire team constructed around the philosophy of taking pitches and you work over their entire bullpen in the first game of a four game series, it pays dividends.

[JSFIP]

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