NBA Thread

[jays_fever]

lol Biyombo is a beast, I dont think you guys understand how NBA contracts work. 3/20 isnt a lot

[John_Havok]

lol Biyombo is a beast, I dont think you guys understand how NBA contracts work. 3/20 isnt a lot

 

It crtainly won't be when the cap goes up. 3 / 20 will be your 12th man soon

[SpeedyGose]

lol Biyombo is a beast, I dont think you guys understand how NBA contracts work. 3/20 isnt a lot

 

No it's not a lot but I don't want to be the team paying him the big contract he will get. He's had one good season as a mostly 18 MPG player with some nice spot starts

[jays_fever]

It crtainly won't be when the cap goes up. 3 / 20 will be your 12th man soon

 

It isn't now. Elite rebounders and shot blockers are very valuable. If we didnt have JV I'd bring him back as a our starting C.

 

No it's not a lot but I don't want to be the team paying him the big contract he will get. He's had one good season as a mostly 18 MPG player with some nice spot starts

 

He's been a good player the past 3 years, those Charlotte teams were very poorly managed.

[crazy47larry]

lol Biyombo is a beast, I dont think you guys understand how NBA contracts work. 3/20 isnt a lot

 

yeah i dont know what these guys are smoking. biyombo's market is gonna start at double that easily. some team is gonna want him as a starter and pay him accordingly. he will probably get exposed as a full time starter though.

[John_Havok]

yeah i dont know what these guys are smoking. biyombo's market is gonna start at double that easily. some team is gonna want him as a starter and pay him accordingly. he will probably get exposed as a full time starter though.

 

Hard to say. I haven't watched the NBA full time for very long so my opinion is somewhat uninformed, but it seems like his deficiencies on offense would limit his effectiveness as a starter long term, unless he is legitimately elite at rebounding and shot blocking like Drummond is.

[GD]

lol Biyombo is a beast, I dont think you guys understand how NBA contracts work. 3/20 isnt a lot

 

Unless it's a bad contract no one is paying a 2nd unit .156 guy 40m. If someone wants to do that then so long.

[jays_fever]

Unless it's a bad contract no one is paying a 2nd unit .156 guy 40m. If someone wants to do that then so long.

 

He isn't a 2nd unit guy, thats the point. You don't need to be a 2 way player if you're really bloody good at 1 side of the ball.

 

If he was a good offensive player he'd be a all star and teams would be throwing him Lowry money

[GD]

He isn't a 2nd unit guy, thats the point. You don't need to be a 2 way player if you're really bloody good at 1 side of the ball.

 

If he was a good offensive player he'd be a all star and teams would be throwing him Lowry money

 

I'm saying that his stats were put up versus other teams' second units and would likely decrease versus other teams' first units

 

His WS are good, but his Ratings, RPM, and VORP are all pretty bad in general much against a second unit. He's a useful guy more than likely but let's not overrate him ourselves because of the playoffs. Even if another team ends up doing that

[dineke]

Iman Shumpert got 4/40. Masai gave Terrence Ross 33 mil lol. w/e, no point in discussing since they're giving Demar 125 million *facepalm*

[GD]

Iman Shumpert got 4/40. Masai gave Terrence Ross 33 mil lol. w/e, no point in discussing since they're giving Demar 125 million *facepalm*

 

retweet and facepalmed

[burlingtonbandit]

He isn't a 2nd unit guy, thats the point. You don't need to be a 2 way player if you're really bloody good at 1 side of the ball.

 

If he was a good offensive player he'd be a all star and teams would be throwing him Lowry money

 

His defence doesn't make up for his offence to be worth 10 million though. And with JV you aren't going to pay a backup C 7 million to play 16 minutes.

[dineke]

You can always trade JV for something good *ducks*

[GD]

His defence doesn't make up for his offence to be worth 10 million though. And with JV you aren't going to pay a backup C 7 million to play 16 minutes.

 

7 million isn't going to be a lot of money coming up. It'll be a fine going rate for an above avg backup big. He won't get 7 million though, he'll get a lot more. I'd love him back at 7.

 

 

 

Dineke you enjoying this game?

[GD]

You can always trade JV for something good *ducks*

 

I'm going to leave this here not directed at anything particular, just for fun

 

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[TR]

[TD=width: 64]Player[/TD]

[TD=width: 64]WS/48[/TD]

[TD=width: 64]O-Rtg[/TD]

[TD=width: 64]D-Rtg[/TD]

[TD=width: 64]VORPWins[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]JV[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.211[/TD]

[TD=align: right]120[/TD]

[TD=align: right]102[/TD]

[TD=align: right]3.24[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Cousins[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.122[/TD]

[TD=align: right]103[/TD]

[TD=align: right]103[/TD]

[TD=align: right]7.02[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

[crazy47larry]

Hard to say. I haven't watched the NBA full time for very long so my opinion is somewhat uninformed, but it seems like his deficiencies on offense would limit his effectiveness as a starter long term, unless he is legitimately elite at rebounding and shot blocking like Drummond is.

 

hes a terrible offensive player. he has trouble catching rebounds and passes right to him. he has absolutely no skill around the basket. his hands are basically made of granite. he also fouls quite a bit. thats especially unnerving on offense because there really is no excuse for those offensive fouls. thing is a guy like kenneth faried doesnt offer much more either and he's still a solid player and got paid handsomely before the cap explosion. energy + size can get you very far in this league.

[dineke]

I'm going to leave this here not directed at anything particular, just for fun

 

[TABLE=width: 320]

[TR]

[TD=width: 64]Player[/TD]

[TD=width: 64]WS/48[/TD]

[TD=width: 64]O-Rtg[/TD]

[TD=width: 64]D-Rtg[/TD]

[TD=width: 64]VORPWins[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]JV[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.211[/TD]

[TD=align: right]120[/TD]

[TD=align: right]102[/TD]

[TD=align: right]3.24[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Cousins[/TD]

[TD=align: right]0.122[/TD]

[TD=align: right]103[/TD]

[TD=align: right]103[/TD]

[TD=align: right]7.02[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

 

I live JV a lot but i want Biyombo to stay too. What he does with his D is game changing and I still have questions about JV's D longterm. A center can make a huge difference with on D more so than any other position so i want Biyombo to stay!!!

[GD]

I live JV a lot but i want Biyombo to stay too. What he does with his D is game changing and I still have questions about JV's D longterm. A center can make a huge difference on D more so than any other position so i want Biyombo to stay!!!

 

I don't know what we'd trade JV for. Harden? Blake? I dunno, f*** it, sign Horford.

 

Lowry

Harden

Carroll

Horford

Biyombo/draft pick

 

MAKE ME GM

 

Didn't Raptors Republic used to make those lists about who we'd trade JV for? lol

[burlingtonbandit]

7 million isn't going to be a lot of money coming up. It'll be a fine going rate for an above avg backup big. He won't get 7 million though, he'll get a lot more. I'd love him back at 7.

 

 

 

Dineke you enjoying this game?

 

I was assuming that 7 million was on a 5 year contract and would prevent the team from signing a 4 which the team needs pretty badly. Were those Ortg and Drtg numbers from NBA.com or Bball reference?

[dineke]

I don't know what we'd trade JV for. Harden? Blake? I dunno, f*** it, sign Horford.

 

Lowry

Harden

Carroll

Horford

Biyombo/draft pick

 

MAKE ME GM

 

Didn't Raptors Republic used to make those lists about who we'd trade JV for? lol

 

I like JV. I like Biyombo. I know it might be dumb to commit a big contract to someone who would essentially be a back-up on this team. I'm so conflicted.

[dineke]

I'll tell you what, I would rather commit 125 million to JV + Biyombo than derozan that's for sure.

[burlingtonbandit]

I'll tell you what, I would rather commit 125 million to JV + Biyombo than derozan that's for sure.

 

Lol I don't think anyone wants to sign Derozan for 100+ including Masai.

[dineke]

Well he's getting the max from someone.

[John_Havok]

Well he's getting the max from someone.

 

That team will regret it immensely

[burlingtonbandit]

Well he's getting the max from someone.

 

*prays not the Raptors*

 

I really hope LA offers him the max so he can "go home"

[burlingtonbandit]

This OKC-Warriors game is so good. OKC has a chance to pull off the upset.

[dineke]

OKC vs Raptors Final. Winner gets Durant.

[o2cui2i]

the plot thickens... it will be hard for OKC if they lose this one after coming back from so far behind

[burlingtonbandit]

Reffing has been terrible again. How were there not FTs after Waiters foul on a dunk attempt?

[Frag]

I would suggest that the NBA needs instant replay for foul calls, but it's so bad that it would be a mess.