NBA Thread

[burlingtonbandit]

Clippers look Hungover as s***. lol they look like the Sixers out there. Raps playing really well too.

[Effit]

lol f***ing Raps

[jays_fever]

f***ing get rid of Demar, I cant stand him or Casey anymore.

 

The Suns have shown they like taking on random guards, maybe they'll give up Booker for him

Edited November 22, 2015 by jays_fever

[Swervin81]

We scored less pts in the 2nd half than either of the first 2 quarters... for f***s sakes.

 

Seriously, ISO after ISO after ISO after ISO... like, f***ing move the ball around. Good god, I swear, this team will be so much better off when DeMar is let go and Casey is fired.

[dineke]

Didn't watch but I see Ross had 0 points. Great extension Masai!

[Spanky99]

How come no one's giving them credit for holding the Clippers to 80 points?

[Frank Menechino]

How come no one's giving them credit for holding the Clippers to 80 points?

 

Their "defense" was really just a product of the Clippers ineptness, and largely based on LAC missing uncontested 3-pointers.

[burlingtonbandit]

Lowry has quietly had an elite start to the season. For as much as we s*** on them Raps have been pretty damn good this year. Top 10 team in the NBA so far.

[GD]

Lowry has quietly had an elite start to the season. For as much as we s*** on them Raps have been pretty damn good this year. Top 10 team in the NBA so far.

 

Yup. Right in the treadmill.

[dineke]

Lowry playing over his head in the first half? hmm...

[burlingtonbandit]

Yup. Right in the treadmill.

 

Meh I don't think Toronto will every be a top NBA team based on the economics of the NBA so I'm happy being a top 10 team with a shot at getting the the ECF. I can't see another GM being able to lure a FA to Toronto better than Masai and if you tank you could be like the Sixers having to wait 5-6 years to get a franchise player.

 

I'd rather be interested and watch good basketball than not even caring about the team because its a D-League roster for 5 years with a very small chance to get 2 franchise players in a draft. I understand people have different opinions but thats just my viewpoint.

[burlingtonbandit]

I mean really only 3-4 teams actually have a realistic chance of winning the title this year. Outside the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs, Bulls/Hawks (maybe) you could say every team has no shot of winning.

 

Warriors look like they can have a Dynasty. They don't even need to play the regular season lol.

 

Edit: Could put OKC in that group too. Although after this year they're doomed.

[jays_fever]

OKC, Memphis or Houston could probably win with everything going there way. Golden State built the next dynasty really with like able players, would be cool to see them have a 3peat

[dineke]

lol top 10 team? ECF contenders? Based on 15 games? Are we not talking about the same team with about the same core as the team that got swept by the wizards last year?

 

We've only been playing okay because Lowry is once again having a stretch of games of playing over his head and Demar has an insane foul rate. Once that regresses we're still 1st/2nd round fodder basically.

[GD]

Warriors built a dynasty off of the pick ahead of Demar Derozan. Don't see what relevance the "economics of the NBA" has, whatever that means

[jays_fever]

Curry was what 9th, Thompson late lottery pick, Green second round pick I think, Bogut just some injured guy they grabbed for free, Harrison Barnes mid lottery, brought in a great all around vet Iggy to help compliment them.

 

It's pretty hard to out tank some teams nowadays and get lucky with good picks in good years. OKC and the wolves are the only teams I can think of that have had success with it over the past 7 years,

[burlingtonbandit]

lol top 10 team? ECF contenders? Based on 15 games? Are we not talking about the same team with about the same core as the team that got swept by the wizards last year?

 

We've only been playing okay because Lowry is once again having a stretch of games of playing over his head and Demar has an insane foul rate. Once that regresses we're still 1st/2nd round fodder basically.

 

Based on the fact the Eastern Conference sucks lol. I think you hate on them a bit too much. JV had been really good before he got hurt. Cory Joseph and Carrol aren't starts by any means but are pretty good 4th and 5th pieces. If they still had Amir I think they would have a realistic chance at getting to ECF.

[burlingtonbandit]

Warriors built a dynasty off of the pick ahead of Demar Derozan. Don't see what relevance the "economics of the NBA" has, whatever that means

 

Economics of the NBA is that star players want to play for big market teams and that aren't going to get a FA if they go back to being that s***** franchise. The Warriors got a ton of luck as well as being one of the smartest Front Offices. There are so many rebuilding teams that just never become good because of the landscape of the NBA.

 

I think Masai is the best GM the Raptors will ever get so hopefully it works out.

[GD]

Curry was what 9th, Thompson late lottery pick, Green second round pick I think, Bogut just some injured guy they grabbed for free, Harrison Barnes mid lottery, brought in a great all around vet Iggy to help compliment them.

 

It's pretty hard to out tank some teams nowadays and get lucky with good picks in good years. OKC and the wolves are the only teams I can think of that have had success with it over the past 7 years,

 

Bogut for Monta Ellis

[dineke]

Based on the fact the Eastern Conference sucks lol. I think you hate on them a bit too much. JV had been really good before he got hurt. Cory Joseph and Carrol aren't starts by any means but are pretty good 4th and 5th pieces. If they still had Amir I think they would have a realistic chance at getting to ECF.

 

Don't we want them to be legitimately good not just hoping for them to suck less than the others teams? JV's our best young piece but he still can't play defense or pass out of the post to save his life. The guy who's carrying us is almost 30 and is going to decline soon. The other star is on the last year of his contract and not even that good either.

 

We're not even a mediocre team with a lot of upside... just a mediocre team.

[GD]

Don't we want them to be legitimately good not just hoping for them to suck less than the others teams? JV's our best young piece but he still can't play defense or pass out of the post to save his life. The guy who's carrying us is almost 30 and is going to decline soon. The other star is on the last year of his contract and not even that good either.

 

We're not even a mediocre team with a lot of upside... just a mediocre team.

 

Let's not take what we have for granted. JV and Lowry have flaws but they're very good pieces. Lowry is better than most #2 pieces on championship teams. I'd take him over guys like Klay Thompson, Kyrie, etc (in 2015).

[Spanky99]

I'm glad I don't follow this sport intensely, fans would really bother me.

[burlingtonbandit]

Don't we want them to be legitimately good not just hoping for them to suck less than the others teams? JV's our best young piece but he still can't play defense or pass out of the post to save his life. The guy who's carrying us is almost 30 and is going to decline soon. The other star is on the last year of his contract and not even that good either.

 

We're not even a mediocre team with a lot of upside... just a mediocre team.

 

I'd call them better than mediocre. With everyone healthy I'd say they are a top 10 NBA team. If damn Demor the ar could consistently play the drive to the rim/pass/no mid range shots they have a little more upside. Obviously they aren't a perfect team or even a "great" team but like I said before with the NBA landscape there are much situations. If they blow it up like Philly you could be watching garbage for 5+ years and never get back to where they are now.

 

Just curious for the people on the board how would you rank the top 10 franchises in terms of present and future value?

[GD]

A back-end top 10 team is still fairly mediocre

[dineke]

I'm not advocating they blow up like the sixers anymore (they're probably passed the point of doing that). Just maybe not go with the exact same treadmill core as BC's... is that too much to ask? Maybe realize Demar is crappy chucker sooner and got some value for him instead of going into a walk year with him still on the roster. They even kept BC's coach...

 

Not to mention 11 million for Terrence Ross ;_;

[GD]

Yeah if this team hadn't tied up money in Demar (speaking preemptively) and Ross they'd be in a good spot. Still not a great spot but better, at least.

[burlingtonbandit]

Golden State

Cleveland

San Antonio

LA Clippers

Chicago

Atlanta

Miami

Minnesota

Houston

OKC

Toronto

[burlingtonbandit]

That T Ross extension looks so so bad.

[dineke]

Golden State

Cleveland

San Antonio

LA Clippers

Chicago

Atlanta

Miami

Minnesota

Houston

OKC

Toronto

 

Pacers, Wizards, Jazz, Pelicans, knicks maybe(Porzingis looks amazing), bucks maybe, pistons maybe, celtics maybe...

[GD]

Golden State

Cleveland

San Antonio

Chicago

LA Clippers

OKC

Pelicans

Houston

Pacers

Wizards

Atlanta

Minnesota

Toronto

Knicks

Celtics

Bucks

Miami

Jazz

Pistons