Injury Updates 14/06/12: Drabek, Hutch, Reyes, Morrow, Johnson, Lawrie, Santos

[fatcowxlive]

[GD]

Good news all around. Except for JJ who's getting kinda annoying.

[digiblader]

Once Hutchison and Drabek come back, we'll have more depth in Buffalo(which is where they're likely headed). Luis Perez is rehabbing as well--Jays are going to need to make a decision on him soon too.

[DwightDM]

I know blisters and stuff to pitchers can be a bitch and complicate things etc.. but I really like what RA Dickey said in that Fangraphs article despite his suckage this year.. basically that there's guys who can only pitch when they are 100% and guys who can go 200+ innings.

 

Our made-of-glass pitchers (ie Morrow and JJ) are really showing it this year.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Good news all around. Except for JJ who's getting kinda annoying.

 

Even if the opportunity of getting JJ for a short term discount presents itself, I don't want any part of it.

 

Injury prone as s***. The guy seems super mentally soft. Time to move on.

[Laika]

I forgot Sergio Santos existed

[Sparky12]

Sure will be nice to get some depth back at SP, hard to believe how bad it's been this year.

[JaysFanToTheEnd]

I know blisters and stuff to pitchers can be a bitch and complicate things etc.. but I really like what RA Dickey said in that Fangraphs article despite his suckage this year.. basically that there's guys who can only pitch when they are 100% and guys who can go 200+ innings.

 

Our made-of-glass pitchers (ie Morrow and JJ) are really showing it this year.

 

I want both of them gone by next season. Sick and tired of this team going through the scrap bin to find replacements. Though I don't see any of them actually going.

[G-Snarls]

I forgot Sergio Santos existed

 

It's best to forget he and Ricky are still in the organization and getting paid good money

 

Less painful that way

[G-Snarls]

Johnson is just a pain in the ass. 65 games into the season and he's given the team 35 mediocre-to-bad innings.

 

He was the reason AA talked to the Marlins in the first pace. Woohoo!

[The_DH]

He was the reason AA talked to the Marlins in the first pace. Woohoo!

 

I thought Boni was the reason. What a trade.

[kgm1]

Once Hutchison and Drabek come back, we'll have more depth in Buffalo(which is where they're likely headed). Luis Perez is rehabbing as well--Jays are going to need to make a decision on him soon too.

 

Which is why we need to deal oliver as soon as we can show he is pitching well . Late inning lefty relief for teams like Detroit , Washington , etc

[admin]

How long has Reyes been out now? I'm too lazy to look.

[ElNik2013]

I know a lot of us would've preferred that AA signed FA pitchers to shore up the shambles of a rotation the Blue Jays had, how are guys like EJax, Lohse and others doing since I'm too lazy to look it up?

[ElNik2013]

Well the two you mentioned..........s***!

 

Who else was talked about that's actually doing well?

[admin]

60 days on the 20th I believe, he's well ahead of schedule. We should see him back by the 28th at the latest.

 

Nice, that's not too bad.

[GD]

Well the two you mentioned..........s***!

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jacksed01.shtml

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lohseky01.shtml

 

Lohse had a strain on his UCL.

 

Jackson has a 3.38 FIP and I would be thrilled to have him in our rotation atm.

 

Francisco Liriano 1.95 FIP 1.4 fWAR

 

Anibal Sanchez 1.78 FIP 3.3 fWAR

 

Scott Baker injured

 

All the guys we were linked to have been excellent, who have pitched.

[Angrioter]

Jackson has a 3.38 FIP and I would be thrilled to have him in our rotation atm.

 

Francisco Liriano 1.95 FIP 1.4 fWAR

 

Anibal Sanchez 1.78 FIP 3.3 fWAR

 

Scott Baker injured

 

All the guys we were linked to have been excellent, who have pitched.

 

add Kevin Slowey and Kevin Correia

[G-Snarls]

Jackson has a 3.38 FIP and I would be thrilled to have him in our rotation atm.

 

Francisco Liriano 1.95 FIP 1.4 fWAR

 

Anibal Sanchez 1.78 FIP 3.3 fWAR

 

Scott Baker injured

 

All the guys we were linked to have been excellent, who have pitched.

 

I wanted Sanchez

 

If we'd have singed Darvish last year and Sanchez this year, we could have kept most of the farm

[ElNik2013]

Jackson has a 3.38 FIP and I would be thrilled to have him in our rotation atm.

 

Francisco Liriano 1.95 FIP 1.4 fWAR

 

Anibal Sanchez 1.78 FIP 3.3 fWAR

 

Scott Baker injured

 

All the guys we were linked to have been excellent, who have pitched.

 

 

I was for signing guys instead of emptying the farm, but the other side of the coin is, would they have signed with the Blue Jays? Certainly, this team couldn't afford to go into the season with the rotation in the shape it was at the end of last year. I don't think Sanchez was realistic and even Jason Grilli turned down the Blue Jays which makes you freaking wonder. Anyway, can't go back in time. We'll see what happens.

[ElNik2013]

I wanted Sanchez

 

If we'd have singed Darvish last year and Sanchez this year, we could have kept most of the farm

 

 

I agree, but Texas outbid everyone else by 20 million or something like that and didn't Sanchez have a deal with someone else, but had an agreement with the Tigers to give them a chance to match any offer? Anyway...all water under the bridge now or something like that.

[G-Snarls]

I agree, but Texas outbid everyone else by 20 million or something like that and didn't Sanchez have a deal with someone else, but had an agreement with the Tigers to give them a chance to match any offer? Anyway...all water under the bridge now or something like that.

 

That's just it. We don't know. And you can't just make people sign with you. Just wishful thinking.

[Sparky12]

I wanted Sanchez

 

If we'd have singed Darvish last year and Sanchez this year, we could have kept most of the farm

 

That is troubling, I mean we're spending the same money anyways

[ElNik2013]

That is troubling, I mean we're spending the same money anyways

 

 

It would've been ideal, but it's not like they knew how much it would take to sign Darvish and I doubt Sanchez would've preferred to sign with the Blue Jays over the Tigers and it's not like the Tigers didn't have the cash.

[admin]

Jackson has a 3.38 FIP and I would be thrilled to have him in our rotation atm.

 

Francisco Liriano 1.95 FIP 1.4 fWAR

 

Anibal Sanchez 1.78 FIP 3.3 fWAR

 

Scott Baker injured

 

All the guys we were linked to have been excellent, who have pitched.

 

Man Liriano would have been nice here!

Just think, if we didn't make all these moves, this is the kind of guy we probably would have picked up.

I even wouldn't have mind signing Carlos Villanueva. I don't know if I would have given him $10/2years like the Cubs did, but it would have been nice to have him here for a long man, and could have moved into the rotation when the injuries came up.

He could have stuck around 4.00ERA, which would have been just fine.

 

Guthrie 7-3 with 3.60ERA, bet Buck loves that signing.

4.91xFIP -.3WAR.

[G-Snarls]

Man Liriano would have been nice here!

Just think, if we didn't make all these moves, this is the kind of guy we probably would have picked up.

I even wouldn't have mind signing Carlos Villanueva. I don't know if I would have given him $10/2years like the Cubs did, but it would have been nice to have him here for a long man, and could have moved into the rotation when the injuries came up.

He could have stuck around 4.00ERA, which would have been just fine.

 

We shouldn't have needed Villa

 

Rogers has become our Villa

 

We thought we had 6 legit starters to start the season but we have suffered from more than expected injuries and suckage from those 6

[Angrioter]

add Kevin Slowey and Kevin Correia

 

Garbage.

 

No. Ortiz, Laffey and Jenkins are garbage. Kevin Slowey and Kevin Correia are excellent 6th man (depth bro)

[ElNik2013]

To me the problem hasn't been the 6th starter as much as the 1-4 starters not pitching up to their potential even when healthy.

[Angrioter]

add Kevin Slowey and Kevin Correia

 

Garbage.

 

To me the problem hasn't been the 6th starter as much as the 1-4 starters not pitching up to their potential even when healthy.

 

The problem

1-4 70%

5-6 30%

[ElNik2013]

The problem

1-4 70%

5-6 30%

 

Thtat's fair. Improvement on the 70% will get them back to .500. Coming into ST, a lot of people were fine with the Blue Jays' 6 starters (Dickey, Morrow, Johnson, Buehrle, Romero and Happ), things just haven't worked out this way for different reasons.