Multiple roster moves today - Ortiz DFA, Weber to AAA

[JaysFan4Ever]

He was placed on the DL March 31 retroactive to March 27 so he would be eligible to return now but that would wipe out the roster spot opened by Ortiz being DFA.

[Angrioter]

Is McGowan eligible? If so, I would like it to be him...

 

Can't be call up until Friday 30th.

[o2cui2i]

The correct line is "You fat cats didn't finish your plankton, now it's mine!"

 

the dumpster diving is so imbedded in AA that he has no idea how to run a team once it acquires players. the reason this team had such a s***** start is because AA had 400 scrubs in ST fighting for innings and the 25 man roster started the season not being ready to play. right up until the Philly series preseason the regulars were only playing home games. the last 3 weeks they should have been getting 4-5 AB every day getting ready to play for real. the pitchers should have been facing major league hitting and not A ball simulated s***. this team was so fricken far behind the learning curve when the season started that they will not recover this year.

 

that all falls on AA and his blatantly horrific obsession with trying to find s*** in other peoples trash.

[GD]

stilson maybe? He pitched a couple shutout innings the other day

 

Ooh, that would be nice.

[Deadpool]

He was placed on the DL March 31 retroactive to March 27 so he would be eligible to return now but that would wipe out the roster spot opened by Ortiz being DFA.

 

Unless they DFA McGowan, he's going to have to take that spot fairly soon anyway, and this would solve ONE of the impending 40 man catastrophucks that's coming.

[JaysFan4Ever]

True. It's going to be a mess with all the people on the 60 Day DL.

[Abomination]

Hmmm, I was wrong, McGowan threw 2 innings yesterday not today. I suppose he might be a possibility IF he's eligible. Stilson makes no sense atm, although I'd love to see him. It would be Stroman's day to start tomorrow I believe, so he would be a reasonable fit. We might also get 1 pitcher and 1 hitter, since we will be playing 2 NL games and could use an extra guy on the bench. Thole isn't in the lineup tonight after also missing last night, so perhaps he'd be a possibility (or hurt).

[JaysFan4Ever]

the dumpster diving is so imbedded in AA that he has no idea how to run a team once it acquires players. the reason this team had such a s***** start is because AA had 400 scrubs in ST fighting for innings and the 25 man roster started the season not being ready to play. right up until the Philly series preseason the regulars were only playing home games. the last 3 weeks they should have been getting 4-5 AB every day getting ready to play for real. the pitchers should have been facing major league hitting and not A ball simulated s***. this team was so fricken far behind the learning curve when the season started that they will not recover this year.

 

that all falls on AA and his blatantly horrific obsession with trying to find s*** in other peoples trash.

 

Certainly seems like it. Trying to catch lightning in a bottle once in a while works. Having a few guys as filler isn't a problem. having a few guys you know you can go to short term if you need to ie AAAA player who might fill a DL spot or time before a prospect is ready but constantly grabbing garbage and trying to make it work is horrible. It's not building the depth you need. We're paying the price for it now and have been for years.

[TheHurl]

McGowan has until June 12th before he has to be recalled. Even though they have a spot now with the Ortiz DFA, I think they will bring someone else on to the roster and let Dustin use his full 30 days. This just gives two more weeks.

[Deadpool]

McGowan has until June 12th before he has to be recalled. Even though they have a spot now with the Ortiz DFA, I think they will bring someone else on to the roster and let Dustin use his full 30 days. This just gives two more weeks.

 

There's a reasonable chance that he's the best guy they could recall right now, and it would save them a 40 man roster headache later... Neither would shock me...

[o2cui2i]

There's a reasonable chance that he's the best guy they could recall right now, and it would save them a 40 man roster headache later... Neither would shock me...

 

anyone but Romero i guess

[G-Snarls]

@gregorMLB: #BlueJays bullpen has thrown 189 1/3 innings this season, which trails only the #Astros for most in Majors. Not a good sign.

[o2cui2i]

@gregorMLB: #BlueJays bullpen has thrown 189 1/3 innings this season, which trails only the #Astros for most in Majors. Not a good sign.

 

jays rocking the 2 man rotation.

[o2cui2i]

It can't hurt. I really don't have any hope he'll be more than a fringy #5 type, but he's still probably our best option.

 

jays are going to be deep into tomorrow when they need the BP in the second inning. they've over used everyone.

[o2cui2i]

Tomorrow is just going to be ugly.

 

a guy who is bad at multiple innings and a BP that is completely gassed against a team who hits more HRs than almost anyone. pray for a Fing tornado to touch down before game time. 3 days of brutal and unstopping rain is the only chance the jays have.

[Angrioter]

Its actually kind of shocking how bad the pen has been.

 

Delabar = 4.55 xFIP

Rogers = 5.03 xFIP

Oliver = 4.34 xFIP, hurt

Lincoln = 4.87 xFIP

Santos = dead

 

Pretty much just Janssen, Cecil, and Loup have been effective. And now Janssen is hurt.

 

add one hit wonder (Gonzalez, Jeffress, Bush, Ortiz, Weber)

[GD]

Pretty much just Janssen, Cecil, and Loup have been effective. And now Janssen is hurt.

 

It's not bad by any means, but Loup's 3.74 xFIP isn't special or anything.

[saskjayfan]

Its actually kind of shocking how bad the pen has been.

 

Delabar = 4.55 xFIP

Rogers = 5.03 xFIP

Oliver = 4.34 xFIP, hurt

Lincoln = 4.87 xFIP

Santos = dead

 

Pretty much just Janssen, Cecil, and Loup have been effective. And now Janssen is hurt.

 

you're going to used advanced pitching stats on a sample size of less than 30 innings? That's grand...delabar has looked fine and I like him in our bullpen...loup, janssen and cecil have been good...oliver hasn't been as good, but he's solid but hurt right now. We'll see what mcgowan can add to the pen..hopefully he performs well...because that would give 5 pretty solid guys...your 6th and 7th guys on most teams aren't usually that outstanding.

[DH12]

bringing Thad Webber in today in such a crucial situation shows you how desperate the Jays are for pitching help

[Caper]

Negrych not in for Buffalo again tonight. Is he hurt?... or?

[saskjayfan]

Negrych not in for Buffalo again tonight. Is he hurt?... or?

 

I would love to see negrych up..and thole....shi tweeted mcgowan isn't eligilbe to come off dl till thursday.

[Abomination]

Its actually kind of shocking how bad the pen has been.

 

Delabar = 4.55 xFIP

Rogers = 5.03 xFIP

Oliver = 4.34 xFIP, hurt

Lincoln = 4.87 xFIP

Santos = dead

 

Pretty much just Janssen, Cecil, and Loup have been effective. And now Janssen is hurt.

 

Delabar's only real issue has been the April walks (he was able to get away with a lot of them), which are the main reason for the inflated xFIP and seem to have been corrected in May (so far). Oliver has out-performed his xFIP for the last 7 or 8 years (many years by a wide margin), so it seems a little unfair to use it to say that he's been bad this year (and a good portion of that was from the first 3 games of the season as well). I'd consider both to have been decent. Agree fully on Rogers and Lincoln. Overall I think the pen has performed well outside of the emergency guys.

[o2cui2i]

As opposed to ERA over a sample size of less than 30 innings? Delabar has not looked fine. At all. A K/BB of less than 2/1 with a 30% GB rate is not going to cut it. He needs to be better.

 

have to wonder if AA is going to make a mistake and try to make "big" changes this year. he really should be selling off some of what he has and looking for next year.

[Jeffrey_Paul]

Why not DFA Romero at this point. Nobody is going to touch that contract.

 

You read my mind, even without the contract I wouldn't worry.

[Abomination]

Negrych not in for Buffalo again tonight. Is he hurt?... or?

 

I'm positive I saw him in the pregame lineup. I'd say there's an excellent chance he's coming up based on that.

[o2cui2i]

I'm positive I saw him in the pregame lineup. I'd say there's an excellent chance he's coming up based on that.

 

or AA traded him for another weak, over the hill, BP, gas can that will be DFA'd in 2 weeks.

[Angrioter]

you're going to used advanced pitching stats on a sample size of less than 30 innings? That's grand...delabar has looked fine and I like him in our bullpen...loup, janssen and cecil have been good...oliver hasn't been as good, but he's solid but hurt right now. We'll see what mcgowan can add to the pen..hopefully he performs well...because that would give 5 pretty solid guys...your 6th and 7th guys on most teams aren't usually that outstanding.

 

wut

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[saskjayfan]

As opposed to ERA over a sample size of less than 30 innings? Delabar has not looked fine. At all. A K/BB of less than 2/1 with a 30% GB rate is not going to cut it. He needs to be better.

 

If you're gonig to use statistics soley to make your arguement, you need to go to university and take a statistics class so you understand statistical relevance and magin of error.

 

Delabar has a challenge fastball, and when he get's up against the wall he doesn't have to pick the corners as much with the velocity he has and the good slider he has to go with it. He strikes out more than a batter an inning and he can get himself out of trouble with his live arm. When you run into a situation late in games and you have runners on 2nd and 3rd with none out you need to have a guy with swing and miss stuff to come in to clean up those innings, and I'm glad we have delabar's arm in our stable even if it does fail us from time to time.

[saskjayfan]

Delabar may be OK, but Oliver looks kinda done. His swinging strike % is at 5.4 (8.8 last year, and he's always 7-10), and not surprisingly he;s not striking people out. And now he's battling injury. Dude may just be showing his age.

 

oliver may be at the end of his rope...he is old as dirt and now with injuries should not be counted on as much...thank goodness loup and cecil have stepped up.

[ElNik2013]

the dumpster diving is so imbedded in AA that he has no idea how to run a team once it acquires players. the reason this team had such a s***** start is because AA had 400 scrubs in ST fighting for innings and the 25 man roster started the season not being ready to play. right up until the Philly series preseason the regulars were only playing home games. the last 3 weeks they should have been getting 4-5 AB every day getting ready to play for real. the pitchers should have been facing major league hitting and not A ball simulated s***. this team was so fricken far behind the learning curve when the season started that they will not recover this year.

 

that all falls on AA and his blatantly horrific obsession with trying to find s*** in other peoples trash.

 

 

I agree with you, but I'd say he at least succeeded in putting together a winning team in Buffalo...gotta give him that.