A Very Darrelly Dynasty League

[jaysblue]

It could conceivably be both, we just need to get this s*** sorted out and not be draconian with punishing an honest mistake too harshly, because it really leaves a s***** taste in your mouth if it happens to you when it was an honest mistake.

 

It's because Silvergun has a personal vendetta against me for some reason. This was my first illegal pickup in this league by the way, and was an honest mistake due to the search function being messed up on the spreadsheet, though I'm willing to comply with any punishment that is decided. Ray is on my bench right now & will bench Greinke tomorrow.

[Dr. Dinger]

Who cares. Let's get more trade analysis. Did BTS pick my pocket or is he overreacting to a small sample? Is Juan Soto the next Juan Gonzalez?

[Boxcar]

Who cares. Let's get more trade analysis. Did BTS pick my pocket or is he overreacting to a small sample? Is Juan Soto the next Juan Gonzalez?

 

He picked your pocket. Relying on players panning out because Coors is dumb and you should flog yourself. Enjoy owning the next Starlin Castro.

[The Cats Ass]

I agree. Players getting taken by mistake has happened more than a few times, it's just unfortunate that in this case the player actually recorded some stats. Why should this carry a harsher penalty? There's nothing we can do about the stats in the matchup so the next obvious thing to do is try to counteract that. Personally, I think sitting two aces is overkill but asking for picks on top of that? Ridiculous. There should be a clear line which a certain someone is ignoring called intent and as I recall, this individual approached me with renting a player a couple years ago which was deemed to be ethically dubious. How he feels that he can get on his little high horse and preach to others about this is pretty rich but sadly typical.

 

Someone tried renting a player from you? That seems like a North type of thing to do

[z3r0s]

who is the council now a days anyway? I want to get opinions and get something on the books ASAP, like before the end of day if possible. If there is draft pick stripping than sitting 2 starters is too much IMHO, so we should let JB know before he does so.

[Abomination]

Who cares. Let's get more trade analysis. Did BTS pick my pocket or is he overreacting to a small sample? Is Juan Soto the next Juan Gonzalez?

 

I like it slightly for you due to position, but I think it's a fair trade.

[Boxcar]

who is the council now a days anyway? I want to get opinions and get something on the books ASAP, like before the end of day if possible. If there is draft pick stripping than sitting 2 starters is too much IMHO, so we should let JB know before he does so.

 

Just NJH. There is no council, we endure under a harsh autocratic government.

[Dr. Dinger]

He picked your pocket. Relying on players panning out because Coors is dumb and you should flog yourself. Enjoy owning the next Starlin Castro.

 

Starlin Castro at Coors would have been a stud!

[The Cats Ass]

I hope Rodgers gets traded to the Phillies for Sixto Sanchez

[Dr. Dinger]

I hope Rodgers gets traded to the Phillies for Sixto Sanchez

 

This seems more like something to would happen to Boxy.

[Boxcar]

This seems more like something to would happen to Boxy.

 

You're forgetting the part where they both get career altering injuries immediately after the trade.

[z3r0s]

I hope Rodgers gets traded to the Phillies for Sixto Sanchez

 

this made me lol

[Laika]

Thanks for the email. I probably would not have noticed this today without it.

 

I think everyone is making some good points.

We don't want to be punitive/draconian...

... but we do want to deter illegal adds

 

I think if it's noticed before any stats are accumulated then for rare infractions we should not punish at all. IIRC this is how we've done it in the past.

 

I don't remember any precedents of illegal adds where the player accumulated stats.

 

It makes sense to try to correct what happened to the current matchup - regardless of what the illegally added player actually did. So part of the punishment should be to sit one or more superior or equal players that week - if possible.

But it won't always be possible to do that, so we need a more consistent draft pick component. And the punishment needs to sting a bit if there is a windfall to the benching - say if Robbie Ray blows chunks, then jaysblue will have benefited from his punishment, which would suck farts.

 

Repeated issues should probably add some weight to the punishment.

FWIW it seems like jaysblue doesn't even check the spreadsheet sometimes. I can quickly find examples from our drafts:

 

http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/25-A-Very-Darrelly-Dynasty-League?p=1174027&viewfull=1#post1174027

http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/25-A-Very-Darrelly-Dynasty-League?p=519243&viewfull=1#post519243

 

He's essentially a repeat offender when it comes to lazy picks/adds.

 

And how egregious the add was should have some bearing. It's ridiculous to assume that, say, Senzel is unowned. It's more reasonable to assume that Tyler Beede is unowned at this point in his career.

 

And similarly, we need to consider whether the mistake was made in good-faith. If someone does what Silvergums alluded to and decides to stream an owned player because the punishment is worth it in context, then that owner will be treated severely and possibly removed from the league.

 

I'm assuming that jaysblue was just being kind of lazy, and not cheating.

 

I like the idea of the opponent picking who the offender specifically has to sit. If possible. I doubt thehurl will be here in time so I'll make an interim ruling in this case.

 

And I agree that we should record all this stuff for reference.

 

RULING --> Jaysblue should sit Robbie Ray this week and lose his 2019 4th round pick for this. The pick disappears.

Edited April 11, 2018 by Laika

[z3r0s]

thank you oh benevolent dictator for your ruling!

 

Truly the best form of rulership until your offspring tries to take over!

[Spanky99]

 

lol

[Spanky99]

This is silly BTS.

[BTS]

This is silly BTS.

 

My boys are launching BOMBS. Fortunately for you I don't have a pitching staff.

[Spanky99]

My boys are launching BOMBS. Fortunately for you I don't have a pitching staff.

 

Or me it seems...

[TheHurl]

In this case losing 2 high calibre starts seems more than fair for a few s***** innings of Beede pitching and will almost certainly affect the match-up more. We should probably get some input from the 'offended party' (Hurl). It would be hilarious and s***** if he sat Ray +1 on the leagues blessing then they get blown up and cost Hurl the match without his input.

 

The only way I was the offended party was all this talk about my farm (fair as Beede is number 1 on my drop list at this point, I just never had the need and he's just 1 injury filled season away from when he was still a legit prospect). Anyway he was playing FTD, and I think the punishment was fair.

 

It was our final wrap up party yesterday and I started drinking at 1:00 pm. Which I am quite proud of...but the important thing here is that I am back into a world with legit internet in 9 days.

[Boxcar]

Jose Berrios is pretty good.

[Dr. Dinger]

The firesale continues!

 

OTB:

 

Robinson Cano

Gio Gonzalez

Felix Hernandez

Mike Minor

Dellin Betances

Wade Davis

Robert Gsellman (SP holds guy du jour)

Evan Gattis

[Boxcar]

I have some interest in Cano, depending on if you want to ream me or not.

[BTS]

Jeeze, Felix sitting 89 with a 7% swinging strike rate.

[Dr. Dinger]

Jeeze, Felix sitting 89 with a 7% swinging strike rate.

 

Oddly enough, two different contenders sent me cold call offers for him yesterday.

[Boxcar]

Jeeze, Felix sitting 89 with a 7% swinging strike rate.

 

Crazy to think that he's probably gonna get cut next feb.

[BTS]

Oddly enough, two different contenders sent me cold call offers for him yesterday.

 

I'd roster him for sure, but my worst pick is 35, and I'm not giving that up for him.

[Dr. Dinger]

I have some interest in Cano, depending on if you want to ream me or not.

 

He's past the point in his career when I would expect to get an elite prospect for him. I would prefer to bundle multiple pieces from that list to a contender for one good prospect. My current risk appetite for low-level pitching prospects with ceiling is quite high, so I'm willing to roll the dice on those types.

[Boxcar]

Betances is 30? Holy s***, I figured he was like 25/26.

[Boxcar]

He's past the point in his career when I would expect to get an elite prospect for him. I would prefer to bundle multiple pieces from that list to a contender for one good prospect. My current risk appetite for low-level pitching prospects with ceiling is quite high, so I'm willing to roll the dice on those types.

 

I may be interested in a Cano + Davis/Betances thinger but I'm not too high on either of those relievers. If only Hurl hadn't decided to trade for Miller for some reason, you'd still have Vasquez.

[Dr. Dinger]

I may be interested in a Cano + Davis/Betances thinger but I'm not too high on either of those relievers. If only Hurl hadn't decided to trade for Miller for some reason, you'd still have Vasquez.

 

Nate Pearson is probably a lot better than anything you'd fork over at this point tho.