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I guess I just have more faith in Votto getting over his thigh problem than Tulo turning in healthy seasons going forward. It seems like when players start going down the road Tulo is on, things don't really ever get better.

 

Hmmm. See I'm more concerned about Votto because he's had that hamstring issue a few times, so it might be chronic. Tulo's injuries have been more random. I think they are a consequence of a big body like his playing shortstop every freaking day, but I don't think there is a substantially troubling underlying issue.

Posted
Arguing about Votto's fragility while talking about Tulo doesn't seem wise.

 

Just saying both have been pretty similar in that regard. And factor in he plays a premium position. Find me another shortstop that could match Tulo's production...

Posted
Just saying both have been pretty similar in that regard. And factor in he plays a premium position. Find me another shortstop that could match Tulo's production...

 

And cue z3r0s...

Posted
Hmmm. See I'm more concerned about Votto because he's had that hamstring issue a few times, so it might be chronic. Tulo's injuries have been more random. I think they are a consequence of a big body like his playing shortstop every freaking day, but I don't think there is a substantially troubling underlying issue.

 

Hamstring issues > Hip surgery @ 30

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Posted
Find me another shortstop that could match Tulo's production...

 

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cq7nI0XOkFs/UzuZZIyfDGI/AAAAAAAADMA/SizbL48znE8/s1600/Bogaerts+is+Damn+Young.jpg

 

The baseball gods owe me big time, right?

Posted
Wow, for me Votto > Tulo. PRetty surprised Votto + good SP couldn't get it done.

 

Really? Both have injury concerns, Tulo is better and plays a premium position. Not super close for me.

Posted
Just saying both have been pretty similar in that regard. And factor in he plays a premium position. Find me another shortstop that could match Tulo's production...

 

When Tulo is healthy, yes I think he's far superior to everyone else at the position. We're also talking about someone who's cracked 600 PA once (barely) in the last 5 years though.

Posted
How could you argue that Votto is better than Tulo? I just fail to see any angle on that one.

 

BTDumn

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Hamstring issues > Hip surgery @ 30

 

You're right. A torn hip labrum is no joke. Could be seriously s***** consequences.

Man, Tulo's injury history is bananas:

 

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation

2014-07-20 2014-09-29 60-DL 71 64 Left Hip Surgery Labrum Tear 2014-08-15

2014-07-04 2014-07-06 DTD 2 2 - Groin Tightness -

2014-06-14 2014-06-15 DTD 1 1 Right Sprain -

2014-05-26 2014-05-26 DTD 0 0 - Ankle Sprain -

2014-04-09 2014-04-11 DTD 2 1 Right Thigh Strain Quadriceps - -

2014-03-13 2014-03-17 Camp 4 0 Left Lower Leg Contusion Calf - -

2013-08-25 2013-08-27 DTD 2 2 - Abdomen Strain Oblique - -

2013-06-13 2013-07-11 15-DL 28 26 Right Trunk Fracture Rib - -

2013-05-06 2013-05-08 DTD 2 1 - Lower Leg Tightness - -

2013-04-29 2013-05-01 DTD 2 2 Left Shoulder Strain Rotator Cuff - -

2012-05-31 2012-10-04 15-DL 126 113 Left Groin Surgery Scar Tissue Near Nerve 2012-06-21 -

2012-05-14 2012-05-14 DTD 0 0 Left Lower Leg Contusion Batted Ball - -

2012-05-09 2012-05-11 DTD 2 1 Left Groin Soreness - -

2012-04-09 2012-04-09 DTD 0 0 - Hip Strain Hip Flexor - -

2012-03-04 2012-03-07 Camp 3 0 - General Medical Illness - -

2011-09-14 2011-09-20 DTD 6 6 Left Hip Inflammation Bursitis -

2011-09-11 2011-09-13 DTD 2 1 Left Hip Inflammation Bursitis -

2011-09-08 2011-09-10 DTD 2 1 Left Hip Inflammation Bursitis - -

2011-08-31 2011-08-31 DTD 0 0 Left Wrist Soreness - -

2011-07-05 2011-07-09 DTD 4 4 Right Thigh Tightness Quadriceps -

2011-03-04 2011-03-06 Camp 2 0 Right Foot Contusion Heel on Backswing -

2010-08-30 2010-09-01 DTD 2 2 Right Groin Tightness -

2010-06-18 2010-07-27 15-DL 39 33 Left Wrist Fracture Hamate HBP -

2010-06-12 2010-06-15 DTD 3 2 Groin Strain -

2010-05-10 2010-05-13 DTD 3 2 Right Thigh Strain Quadriceps -

2009-09-08 2009-09-11 DTD 3 3 Back Soreness -

2009-08-21 2009-08-22 DTD 1 1 General Medical Illness GI -

2009-06-03 2009-06-06 DTD 3 3 Left Hand Contusion -

2009-05-10 2009-05-12 DTD 2 1 Left Thigh Strain Quadriceps -

2009-03-20 2009-03-26 Camp 6 0 Low Back Tightness -

2008-07-05 2008-07-21 15-DL 16 13 Right Thumb Laceration Thumb -

2008-04-30 2008-06-20 15-DL 51 46 Left Thigh Strain Quadriceps Tendon -

2007-07-24 2007-07-26 DTD 2 2 General Medical Gastrointestinal GI -

2007-06-03 2007-06-05 DTD 2 1 Right Groin Strain -

2007-03-11 2007-03-13 Camp 2 0 Left Wrist Contusion HBP -

2005-08-03 2005-09-03 Minors 31 0 Left Thigh Strain Quadriceps - -

Posted
Yup, North had an offer on the table, then pulled back his original offer, coming in with a lesser offer. Plus, all the players he was mentioning were from other teams and when involving third parties, it makes things more complicated.

 

Wow, what a shocker.

Posted
Really? Both have injury concerns, Tulo is better and plays a premium position. Not super close for me.

 

I just liked one of your posts. This and the gifs of Remy LaCroix have moved you up a couple of notches in my books over the last two days :)

Posted
You're right. A torn hip labrum is no joke. Could be seriously s***** consequences.

Man, Tulo's injury history is bananas:

 

Injury History

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation

2014-07-20 2014-09-29 60-DL 71 64 Left Hip Surgery Labrum Tear 2014-08-15

2014-07-04 2014-07-06 DTD 2 2 - Groin Tightness -

2014-06-14 2014-06-15 DTD 1 1 Right Sprain -

2014-05-26 2014-05-26 DTD 0 0 - Ankle Sprain -

2014-04-09 2014-04-11 DTD 2 1 Right Thigh Strain Quadriceps - -

2014-03-13 2014-03-17 Camp 4 0 Left Lower Leg Contusion Calf - -

2013-08-25 2013-08-27 DTD 2 2 - Abdomen Strain Oblique - -

2013-06-13 2013-07-11 15-DL 28 26 Right Trunk Fracture Rib - -

2013-05-06 2013-05-08 DTD 2 1 - Lower Leg Tightness - -

2013-04-29 2013-05-01 DTD 2 2 Left Shoulder Strain Rotator Cuff - -

2012-05-31 2012-10-04 15-DL 126 113 Left Groin Surgery Scar Tissue Near Nerve 2012-06-21 -

2012-05-14 2012-05-14 DTD 0 0 Left Lower Leg Contusion Batted Ball - -

2012-05-09 2012-05-11 DTD 2 1 Left Groin Soreness - -

2012-04-09 2012-04-09 DTD 0 0 - Hip Strain Hip Flexor - -

2012-03-04 2012-03-07 Camp 3 0 - General Medical Illness - -

2011-09-14 2011-09-20 DTD 6 6 Left Hip Inflammation Bursitis -

2011-09-11 2011-09-13 DTD 2 1 Left Hip Inflammation Bursitis -

2011-09-08 2011-09-10 DTD 2 1 Left Hip Inflammation Bursitis - -

2011-08-31 2011-08-31 DTD 0 0 Left Wrist Soreness - -

2011-07-05 2011-07-09 DTD 4 4 Right Thigh Tightness Quadriceps -

2011-03-04 2011-03-06 Camp 2 0 Right Foot Contusion Heel on Backswing -

2010-08-30 2010-09-01 DTD 2 2 Right Groin Tightness -

2010-06-18 2010-07-27 15-DL 39 33 Left Wrist Fracture Hamate HBP -

2010-06-12 2010-06-15 DTD 3 2 Groin Strain -

2010-05-10 2010-05-13 DTD 3 2 Right Thigh Strain Quadriceps -

2009-09-08 2009-09-11 DTD 3 3 Back Soreness -

2009-08-21 2009-08-22 DTD 1 1 General Medical Illness GI -

2009-06-03 2009-06-06 DTD 3 3 Left Hand Contusion -

2009-05-10 2009-05-12 DTD 2 1 Left Thigh Strain Quadriceps -

2009-03-20 2009-03-26 Camp 6 0 Low Back Tightness -

2008-07-05 2008-07-21 15-DL 16 13 Right Thumb Laceration Thumb -

2008-04-30 2008-06-20 15-DL 51 46 Left Thigh Strain Quadriceps Tendon -

2007-07-24 2007-07-26 DTD 2 2 General Medical Gastrointestinal GI -

2007-06-03 2007-06-05 DTD 2 1 Right Groin Strain -

2007-03-11 2007-03-13 Camp 2 0 Left Wrist Contusion HBP -

2005-08-03 2005-09-03 Minors 31 0 Left Thigh Strain Quadriceps - -

 

That's crazy!

Posted
Tulo is not going to age pretty. Later in life those injuries will catch up with him, but when you are making 20M/year I guess you can worry about that later lol.
Posted
Quick, someone post pictures of Remy Lacroix to calm this situation down.

 

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/87/13/c0/8713c06cd5cccc2c0837ff3abdca0c0a.jpg

Posted
Tulo is not going to age pretty. Later in life those injuries will catch up with him, but when you are making 20M/year I guess you can worry about that later lol.

 

Remy Lacroix > both Tulo and Votto

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Posted
If she doesn't do HD DP then she can suck eggs on a bike for all I care.
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Posted
I feel sorry for the people that didn't know about Remy before this thread

 

I had no idea who she was.

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Posted
If she doesn't do HD DP then she can suck eggs on a bike for all I care.

 

Pretty sure she does do HD DP though.

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