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Posted
I can't even be pleased about Belt because concussions aren't coo'.

 

Guy's season could be wiped out because of an errant warmup through. s***** luck is s*****.

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Posted

Catsass, why you selling? Your team had as good a shot as any non-Dinger team to win the championship if you held your playoff spot.

 

Also, sell me Abreu, Gomez, or Puig plz.

Posted
With Oso Blanco back on the field, rent-a-catcher Saltalamacchia is available. Looking for a holds guy, backup MIF, or pick/prospect. I'm sending out a few such offers.
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Posted
With Oso Blanco back on the field, rent-a-catcher Saltalamacchia is available. Looking for a holds guy, backup MIF, or pick/prospect. I'm sending out a few such offers.

 

Shields and Lee a straight swap?

Posted
Catsass, why you selling? Your team had as good a shot as any non-Dinger team to win the championship if you held your playoff spot.

 

Also, sell me Abreu, Gomez, or Puig plz.

 

Not really a sell per se, with him acquiring a workhorse 30-something SP in return. He mitigates the injury risk for Lee and probably gets 3-5 extra seasons out of Shields.

Posted

Was the trade Shields straight up for Lee or is there more?

 

Edit: Answered, thanks. I think I prefer Shields as an overall asset. It's slight though.

Posted
Was the trade Shields straight up for Lee or is there more?

 

Edit: Answered, thanks. I think I prefer Shields as an overall asset. It's slight though.

 

Coming into the year I would have taken Lee by a landslide, but elbow injuries are scary and he's probably going to retire at the end of this deal. I can see why a team would prefer Shields if they were less concerned about going all in this year and more concerned with sustaining a winning team for the next few years.

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Posted
Not really a sell per se, with him acquiring a workhorse 30-something SP in return. He mitigates the injury risk for Lee and probably gets 3-5 extra seasons out of Shields.

 

Not just this move, but he's weakened his team a bit in 2014 with recent moves, while improving his long-term picture. I'm happy about it, but IMO he underrated his chances at a title this year and has hurt his odds of winning.

 

Yes.

 

I like what you're doing this year, for both you (this year) and the rest of the league (long term). You've assembled a clear favourite capable of steamrolling everyone in the playoffs, BUT you don't look quite like the juggernaut dynasty you looked like before the season. IMO you've increased your chances this year, while also letting the pack a bit closer going forward. Flags fly forever though.

Posted
Catsass, why you selling? Your team had as good a shot as any non-Dinger team to win the championship if you held your playoff spot.

 

Also, sell me Abreu, Gomez, or Puig plz.

 

I don't consider this selling. I consider it jumping ship on Lee before he has career ending TJ Surgery. Shields isn't as good as Lee but I should get a couple more years out of him. I didn't like what I saw from Lee's rehab starts. I've been wrong planty of times though.

 

And Vogelsong was just a guy that i had to move to clear a roster spot.

Posted
Not just this move, but he's weakened his team a bit in 2014 with recent moves, while improving his long-term picture. I'm happy about it, but IMO he underrated his chances at a title this year and has hurt his odds of winning.

 

 

 

I like what you're doing this year, for both you (this year) and the rest of the league (long term). You've assembled a clear favourite capable of steamrolling everyone in the playoffs, BUT you don't look quite like the juggernaut dynasty you looked like before the season. IMO you've increased your chances this year, while also letting the pack a bit closer going forward. Flags fly forever though.

 

I did feel a bit benevolent trading away Jose Fernandez. At least the basement dwellers can take solace in knowing that my core should be in significant decline in the next 2-3 years.

Posted
I'm trying to build a team that'll be a contender year after year. Most of my best players are under 30, with a bunch still under 25. My only main roster players over 30 are Shields, Gonzalez, and Hamilton. With Hamilton being the oldest at 33.
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Posted
I did feel a bit benevolent trading away Jose Fernandez. At least the basement dwellers can take solace in knowing that my core should be in significant decline in the next 2-3 years.

 

Realistically, you have enough talent in place that there's no reason to miss the playoffs or anything barring horrible luck or mismanagement. You just might not run away from the pack indefinitely.

Posted
Not just this move, but he's weakened his team a bit in 2014 with recent moves, while improving his long-term picture. I'm happy about it, but IMO he underrated his chances at a title this year and has hurt his odds of winning.

 

I'm building a team with the assumption that this league is gonna last for ever and ever.

Posted
Coming into the year I would have taken Lee by a landslide, but elbow injuries are scary and he's probably going to retire at the end of this deal. I can see why a team would prefer Shields if they were less concerned about going all in this year and more concerned with sustaining a winning team for the next few years.

Yeah I would have said the same thing too. It seems like there's a fine line with older players' trade value. If a player is elite and dependable enough people will almost regard his age as immaterial. Seems like Lee has recently dipped below that level.

 

Shields is my favourite type of fantasy pitcher. An utter ton of above-average innings year after year from a big guy with smooth mechanics and a deep arsenal. Interestingly, his velocity has increased almost every single year of his career (dip from 2010-2011). I love watching him pitch too.

 

This makes sense for you though, Dinger, because the number of elite innings coming from your rotation made Shields' steady arm a little wasted. Cliff Lee can improve your staff's ratios.

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Posted
Yeah I would have said the same thing too. It seems like there's a fine line with older players' trade value. If a player is elite and dependable enough people will almost regard his age as immaterial. Seems like Lee has recently dipped below that level.

 

Shields is my favourite type of fantasy pitcher. An utter ton of above-average innings year after year from a big guy with smooth mechanics and a deep arsenal. Interestingly, his velocity has increased almost every single year of his career (dip from 2010-2011). I love watching him pitch too.

 

This makes sense for you though, Dinger, because the number of elite innings coming from your rotation made Shields' steady arm a little wasted. Cliff Lee can improve your staff's ratios.

 

I've really started gravitating towards this type of arm and taking fewer chances on upside guys who can't seem to stay healthy.

Posted

I like what Cats is doing long term. Hes being patient and setting himself up for continous competing.

 

That being said, I saw him as the 2nd best team behind dinger and I'm thrilled hes made these moves to weaken his 2014 squad.

Posted
I've really started gravitating towards this type of arm and taking fewer chances on upside guys who can't seem to stay healthy.

 

Offer for Matt Moore?

Posted
I've really started gravitating towards this type of arm and taking fewer chances on upside guys who can't seem to stay healthy.

I can't recommend this approach enough. It's not even costly to do either because other owners are willing to take those chances and don't regard durability as a super-valuable thing.

 

Your stable of Felix, Kuma, Lester is fantastic.

Posted
I'd like to see a lineup card for Dingers team, I'm intrigued now from always hearing about it

 

He has got like 6 or 7 top 100 fantasy assets in his starting lineup. The pitching is pretty darn great too.

Posted
I like what Cats is doing long term. Hes being patient and setting himself up for continous competing.

 

That being said, I saw him as the 2nd best team behind dinger and I'm thrilled hes made these moves to weaken his 2014 squad.

 

Then why am I back in 10th place...

Posted
New Player Note

Evan Gattis Atl - C,OF Evan GattisEvan Gattis

^ Mia

Bot 7, 1-1

224

-

38%

1/2

0

1

0

0

0

.667

.500

1B

No new player Notes

Albert Pujols LAA - 1B Albert PujolsAlbert Pujols

^ Bal

10:05 pm

42

-

95%

0/0

0

0

0

0

0

-

-

2B

New Player Note

Robinson Canó Sea - 2B Robinson CanóRobinson Canó

^ NYM

10:10 pm

10

-

97%

0/0

0

0

0

0

0

-

-

3B

Player Note

Miguel Cabrera Det - 1B,3B Miguel CabreraMiguel Cabrera

^ @Ari

9:40 pm

2

-

98%

0/0

0

0

0

0

0

-

-

SS

No new player Notes

Ian Desmond Was - SS Ian DesmondIan Desmond

^ @Col

Top 3, 0-0

40

-

91%

1/1

0

1

0

0

0

1.000

1.000

CF

Player Note

Jacoby Ellsbury NYY - CF Jacoby EllsburyJacoby Ellsbury

^ Tex

Top 6, 2-1

18

-

96%

2/2

1

2

1

1

0

1.000

2.500

OF

New Player Note

Shin-Soo Choo Tex - CF Shin-Soo ChooShin-Soo Choo

^ @NYY

Top 6, 1-2

38

-

71%

1/3

1

1

0

0

0

.333

.667

OF

Player Note

Torii Hunter Det - OF Torii HunterTorii Hunter

^ @Ari

9:40 pm

189

-

55%

0/0

0

0

0

0

0

-

-

Util

No new player Notes

David Ortiz Bos - 1B David OrtizDavid Ortiz

^ @Tor

Top 7, 14-1

53

-

90%

2/5

2

2

2

4

0

.400

1.600

BN

No new player Notes

Jarrod Saltalamacchia Mia - C Jarrod SaltalamacchiaJarrod Saltalamacchia

^ @Atl

Bot 7, 1-1

486

-

13%

1/3

1

1

1

1

0

.333

1.333

BN

No new player Notes

Brandon Moss Oak - 1B,OF Brandon MossBrandon Moss

194

-

53%

-/-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

BN

No new player Notes

Allen Craig StL - 1B,OF Allen CraigAllen Craig

52

-

46%

-/-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Starting Lineup Totals 7/13 4 7 3 5 0 .571 1.308

Los Osos Blancos's Pitchers roster for 2014-07-21.

 

 

 

 

Rankings

Trends

Pitching

Pos

Pitchers

Action

Opp

Status

O-Rank

Rank

% Started

IP*

W

SV

K

HLD

ERA

K/BB

OBPA

SP

Player Note

Chris Sale CWS - SP Chris SaleChris Sale

^ KC

Bot 4, 2-1

39

-

91%

4.0

0

0

4

0

2.25

INF

.375

SP

Player Note

Adam Wainwright StL - SP Adam WainwrightAdam Wainwright

22

-

73%

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

SP

Player Note

Madison Bumgarner SF - SP Madison BumgarnerMadison Bumgarner

@Phi

Top 6, 6-4

35

-

76%

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

SP

Player Note

Chris Archer TB - SP Chris ArcherChris Archer

171

-

55%

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

SP

Player Note

Mark Buehrle Tor - SP Mark BuehrleMark Buehrle

Bos

Top 7, 1-14

334

-

62%

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

RP

New Player Note

Steve Cishek Mia - RP Steve CishekSteve Cishek

@Atl

Bot 7, 1-1

168

-

84%

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

RP

Player Note

Huston Street LAA - RP Huston StreetHuston Street

Bal

10:05 pm

185

-

89%

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

RP

Player Note

Koji Uehara Bos - RP Koji UeharaKoji Uehara

@Tor

Top 7, 14-1

69

-

97%

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

RP

No new player Notes

Junichi Tazawa Bos - RP Junichi TazawaJunichi Tazawa

@Tor

Top 7, 14-1

380

-

4%

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

P

No new player Notes

Adam Warren NYY - RP Adam WarrenAdam Warren

Tex

Top 6, 2-1

442

-

4%

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

BN

Player Note

James Shields KC - SP James ShieldsJames Shields

@CWS

Bot 4, 1-2

91

-

68%

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

BN

Player Note

Anibal Sánchez Det - SP Anibal SánchezAnibal Sánchez

@Ari

9:40 pm

68

-

67%

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

BN

Player Note

Matt Garza Mil - SP Matt GarzaMatt Garza

Cin

Top 4, 3-0

182

-

52%

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

DL

Player Note

Jonny Venters Atl - RP Jonny VentersJonny Venters

Disabled List

Mia

Bot 7, 1-1

632

-

0%

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

DL

No new player Notes

Kris Medlen Atl - SP Kris MedlenKris Medlen

Disabled List

Mia

Bot 7, 1-1

1000

-

6%

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Starting Lineup Totals 4.0 0 0 4 0 2.25 .375

 

I'm quoting this just for shits and giggles.

Community Moderator
Posted

The logic for Cats behind this Lee-Shields swap is the same as the logic behind me trading Anibal to Dinger for Ryu.

 

In the short term it might be a downgrade, but it could be a pretty big plus long term.

Community Moderator
Posted

We've been falling behind too often on processing trades, so I've added Boxy as a co-commissioner on Yahoo, PB, and the Google Doc. Hopefully with four Darrells things will get processed in a more timely fashion once again.

 

Boxy, the only thing to note about the Google Doc is that you have to use keyboard commands to copy, cut, and paste. Right clicking to do that s*** doesn't work for some gay reason. Also, since you are the most nubile Darrell in power you now have to save a backup of the Google Doc to your hard drive every few weeks.

 

Oh, and if you exit the Doc too quickly, sometimes your changes don't take.

Community Moderator
Posted
Looks like Cargo is hurt again.

 

Jesus Christ. What a nightmare season.

Posted
I really wanted Lee, but just couldn't believe in the health, and 12+ mo. for TJS if he does retire after this contract is huge.

 

e: Btw, does anyone know if Vogelsong was injured or just yanked after coughing up 11(!) hits in 3 innings?

 

I built an injury opt-out clause into our deal, heh.

 

I think it was just an off day for him. If it makes you feel better, Lee didn't do any better... 12 hit, 6 earned runs, in 5.2 innings.

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