NHL Thread

[Spanky99]

Aren't goalies basically the running backs of hockey?

 

I don't get the correlation to football, you mean financially?

[Scion]

The only argument is Lemieux had to battle and beat cancer in the middle of his career and (separately) took 3 years off before returning in the middle of the season to score 35 goals with 76 points in just 43 games.

 

Points per game for their career, Wayne was 1.92 and Mario was 1.88. IMO, Mario was as good as Wayne - he just couldn't stay healthy. Wayne was incredible - and incredibly healthy throughout his career.

 

Orr averaged 122 points and a +80 rating (holy f***!) from age 21 through 26 before blowing out his knee. Again, with healthy, who knows where his stats end up.

 

Mario in his prime was just different. He was bigger, stronger and more talented than everyone and he showed it every shift. That is not to say that he is better or worse than Wayne, but he sure looked more dominant than anyone I can ever recall watching. The closest thing to it was probably prime Lindros.

[Scion]

It’s pretty hilarious that Chris Driedger is better than Sergei Bobrovsky. What a pickle.

 

Still an extremely small sample for Driedger, but it is getting pretty close to the point where we can reliably say that Bobrovsky looks cooked. I wonder if the drop off is due to age/diminishing ability or some form of decline in his work ethic and priorities after signing a big contract and moving to Florida.

[Krylian]

I don't get the correlation to football, you mean financially?

 

Running backs can be volatile from year to year I think is what he's getting at.

[Scion]

Jack Han has a pretty interesting article up on his newsletter about the critical weakness in Galchenyuk's game, his poor dynamic skating posture. What is really interesting is that Jack worked with the Leafs and thus has some insight into how the Leafs will attempt to rebuild his posture and certain muscle cues. Unfortunately his past knee injuries, age and genetics (ankle flexion, t-spine flexibility etc.) may place a ceiling on how much he can actually improve, but still a worthwhile read and an interesting topic that most casual fans are unaware of.

 

https://jhanhky.substack.com/p/searching-for-alex-galchenyuk

[Spanky99]

Wow... Freddy, Hyman, Muzzin and Jumbo all injured for tonight's game.

 

GO LEAFS GO!

[jays4life19]

GO Canucks GO

[Horses Fart]

Wow... Freddy, Hyman, Muzzin and Jumbo all injured for tonight's game.

 

GO LEAFS GO!

 

God f***in help us with Hutch being our number 1 if Andersen is down for any length of time.

[Spanky99]

God f***in help us with Hutch being our number 1 if Andersen is down for any length of time.

 

They mentioned tonight that Campbell should be back soon. Hutchinson has been alright for 4 periods, lol.

[Spanky99]

Wow... this Panarin story is wild, Artemi pissed off Putin?

[Krylian]

Wow... this Panarin story is wild, Artemi pissed off Putin?

 

It was so much simpler when athletes didn't get political

[Spanky99]

Leafs puck luck is terrible tonight, 4 off the iron and countless scoring chances, Rittich standing on his head doesn't help.

[Krylian]

Leafs puck luck is terrible tonight, 4 off the iron and countless scoring chances, Rittich standing on his head doesn't help.

 

He'ss also taken shots off his head too.

[Spanky99]

He'ss also taken shots off his head too.

 

Hah... both by Barabanov.

[Boxcar]

I don't get the correlation to football, you mean financially?

 

I mean like you'll have your occasional Tractorcito or LaDanian Tomlinson who are just great no matter what (Patrick Roy, Dominik Hasek) but the vast majority fluctuate between good and bad depending on how good the OLine is at run blocking.

[Boxcar]

You say that like he was some pedestrian QB who just played on great teams.

 

Brady holds many quarterback records, including combined passing yards (91,653), regular season touchdown passes (581) and career touchdowns (664), in addition to the most Pro Bowl selections (14, tied with 4 others) and the second-most regular season passing yards (79,204).

 

Also - quarterback is the single most influential position for winning in any team sport...and it's not even remotely close. I'm not saying it's the be all, end all - but it matters more than winning in other sports does. That also makes it difficult to compare across other sports.

 

Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. Michigan tried to replace him several times, even when he was the established starter. He became the starter in HS because the current starter stopped playing football. His measurables at the combine before he was drafted were among the worst of any potential draftee. The Patriots nearly cut him before opting to keep him on as the 4th string QB.

 

Despite all of this, of all the Superbowls to exist, Tom Brady has been the starting QB in 18% of them. In any given year, the chances of Tom Brady being in the SB is better than the chance any given Steph Curry 3 pointer will go in the bucket.

 

The Bucs hadn't made the playoffs since 2007 and Brady both brought them to the playoffs with a magical late season run and then beat one of the most dominant teams in NFL history in a blowout to win the first SB for a team playing for it in their home stadium in the first instance of it happening. At 43 years old. He was still a borderline top 5 QB while Ben Roethlisberger and Drew Brees can barely throw the ball ten yards.

 

When doing cross comparisons, what are sports but a series of narratives? I think in the context of all of the above, Tom Brady is the GOAT of all North American sports. I see the statistical argument for Gretzky but I really think Lemieux would have been right there with him if not for health issues.

[Spanky99]

GO LEAFS GO!!! lol

[Spanky99]

PP looking like poo against the Flames thus far.

 

Big save Dave is getting on my nerves...

Edited February 25, 2021 by Spanky99

[jays4life19]

GO Canucks GO!!!!!!!

[Spanky99]

Terrible shift by Holl, what's he doing?

[JG34]

Will Ny the scoring guy!

[Spanky99]

Woohoo Willy... f*** you Rittich, lol.

[Pendleton]

PP looking like poo against the Flames thus far.

 

Big save Dave is getting on my nerves...

 

He had a rough night

[Spanky99]

He had a rough night

 

Yeah, saw that... check out his numbers against the Leafs, lol. He plays like Brodeur. The bastard!

[Spanky99]

Mike Smith is badass!

[Spanky99]

Go Leafs Go!!!

[jays4life19]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CANUCKSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cf

[Jimcanuck]

We should rename this the Leafs Thread

[Jimcanuck]

Hyman makes McDavid and Nurse look like amateurs

[Spanky99]

Haha... Binnington's pissed! Throws a fake blocker punch at Karrlsson than almost scrapped Dubnyk going off the ice after being pulled, lol. He'd have gotten killed by Dubnyk... Binny's like a 150 lbs soaking wet.