NHL Thread

[GD]

Not following, but I'm sick and drugged up so that's probably on me.

 

Meh, just go back to the BBDL thread and watch North get s*** on for the next half hour.

[TRM]

Funny how fast you guys shut up once you googled Dubnyk's numbers lol. Price will win. But Dubnyk should be a finalist. What he had done with Minnesota is remarkable. Hes also started 35 straight games which is unheard of in the modern day. He deserves his due for sure.

 

How in God's name do you know what I've googled in the last hour. I'm calling the cops on you.

[TRM]

Funny how fast you guys shut up once you googled Dubnyk's numbers lol. Price will win. But Dubnyk should be a finalist. What he had done with Minnesota is remarkable. Hes also started 35 straight games which is unheard of in the modern day. He deserves his due for sure.

 

Also you're argument has changed from Dubnyk should be MVP to Dubnyk should be a finalist. Way to stick to your guns. Funny how fast you shut up when you realize you're a fool.

[GD]

Funny how fast you guys shut up once you googled Dubnyk's numbers lol. Price will win. But Dubnyk should be a finalist. What he had done with Minnesota is remarkable. Hes also started 35 straight games which is unheard of in the modern day. He deserves his due for sure.

 

Hm? Oh yeah, hockey.

 

Yeah, we're arguing that you're hella dumn for saying that one goalie should win the MVP but another should win the Vezina. That's like one pitcher winning MVP and another Cy Young. Dumn. That's what that would be. Yeah.

[GD]

Also you're argument has changed from Dubnyk should be MVP to Dubnyk should be a finalist. Way to stick to your guns. Funny how fast you shut up when you realize you're a fool.

 

lol daggers

[jays_fever]

Hes 26-6 with a 1.70 GAA with .940 save percentage and 5 shoutouts. You guys are f***ing mad if you don't think hes MVP worthy. Hes been unbelieveable.

 

He's the most valuable player in the league, but isnt the best player at his position though? That argument makes zero sense. A player doesnt all of a sudden become more valuable because his teamates aren't as good as the other player's teammates.

[GD]

He's the most valuable player in the league, but isnt the best player at his position though? That argument makes zero sense. A player doesnt all of a sudden become more valuable because his teamates aren't as good as the other player's teammates.

 

And just like that, Jonn has sent us back in time to the Miguel Cabrera vs Mike Trout debate. sigh

[TRM]

He should get Vezina. But Dubnyk should get MVP.

 

Exhibit A

[TRM]

Funny how fast you guys shut up once you googled Dubnyk's numbers lol. Price will win. But Dubnyk should be a finalist. What he had done with Minnesota is remarkable. Hes also started 35 straight games which is unheard of in the modern day. He deserves his due for sure.

 

Exhibit B

[GD]

No I think you can have different winners. You can argue that Dubynk's impact to the Minnesota was more valueable. When Dubynk arrived in Minneosta. They were well out of the playoffs. I stand by what I said. People are allowed to have different opinions you know.

 

So what you're saying - correct me if I'm wrong - is that while Price was better than Dubnyk, Dubnyk was more valuable because his team-mates were worse and needed his contributions more than Price's team-mates?

[BTS]

I thought about making this a tri-Norman bloodbath, but I just don't care about hockey.

[TRM]

Ugh nevermind. This is why I don't go to the main board.

[BTS]

Carey Price doesn't get credit for carrying Montreal because he was there all year. lol.

[TRM]

Plus Dubnyk should be MVP, but Price should win the Vezina.

[GD]

Tri-Norman blood bath still in full effect

[TRM]

I didn't say Price was better. The fact that he leads all goalies satistical categories is why Price would win Vezina. But Dubynk started the year as the backup goalie for the worst team in the league. He doesn't have the starts but hes still close to Price in wins. And if Dubynk didn't play for Arizona his other numbers are comparable or even better than Prices.

 

So you are saying that Trout should have won over Cabrera because he was a better player. That's fine.

 

If something like WAR was created for hockey, who do you think would have a higher Hockey WAR. Conduct your argument accordingly.

[GD]

So you are saying that Trout should have won over Cabrera because he was a better player. That's fine.

 

If something like WAR was created for hockey, who do you think would have a higher Hockey WAR. Conduct your argument accordingly.

 

This is essentially where I was going with this. Value = effect*opportunity.

[TRM]

I didn't say Price was better. The fact that he leads all goalies satistical categories is why Price would win Vezina. But Dubynk started the year as the backup goalie for the worst team in the league. He doesn't have the starts but hes still close to Price in wins. And if Dubynk didn't play for Arizona his other numbers are comparable or even better than Prices.

 

1. Do you think the only reason the Wild started winning was because of Dubnyk? It had nothing to do with the improved play of the remainder of the team?

 

2. Price has a far superior SV%, which is reasonably team proofed. GAA admittedly, is much less team proof.

 

3. His numbers are neither comparable nor better than Price.

[King]

At the end of the day I don't give a s*** what you people think. Its a gang mentality just to attack people who don't agree with your opinion which is horse s***. For me Dubynk is the MVP. And I also think he has the chance at Vezina. But since Price leads all categories it won't happen.

 

I agree, I'm getting real tired of this garbage around here. I'm spending more time at the Angels forum nowadays anyway.

 

Quite a shame, Jonn.

[GD]

At the end of the day I don't give a s*** what you people think. Its a gang mentality just to attack people who don't agree with your opinion which is horse s***. For me Dubynk is the MVP. And I also think he has the chance at Vezina. But since Price leads all categories it won't happen.

 

So you can state your opinion, but I can't state mine because other people agree with me.

 

gotcha

[GD]

1. Do you think the only reason the Wild started winning was because of Dubnyk? It had nothing to do with the improved play of the remainder of the team?

 

2. Price has a far superior SV%, which is reasonably team proofed. GAA admittedly, is much less team proof.

 

3. His numbers are neither comparable nor better than Price.

 

What are the 5v5 Sv% numbers? Too lazy to look them up but these are especially team-proofed.

[GD]

Nope didn't say that either. You just insult me in every thread. If you don't like what I say please block me because I'm clearly bothering you.

 

I just disagree with you frequently. Which I'm allowed to.

[GD]

You want disagree fine. But you don't need to insult somebody to make your point.

 

When I actually decided to argue properly I was pretty respectful, made sure I was interpreting you correctly, etc

[BTS]

Nothing you have said to me was out of any kind of respect. You decided to attack me 2 threads for no reason at all. I have never went out of my way to attack you or your opinion. It happens to me on this board all the time and its really not fair. If you don't like me fine. But it gets kind of annoying everytime I post somebody questions my intelligence for no reason. Nobody deserves that.

 

Well-said Jonn. GD gets carried away sometimes.

[TRM]

Well-said Jonn. GD gets carried away sometimes.

 

He's one of those out of control youth whippersnappers. He'll get better with age.

[Frag]

Can you imagine going back in time last offseason and telling people then that we're having a Vezina debate between Carey Price and Devan Dubnyk?

[Laika]

Can you imagine going back in time last offseason and telling people then that we're having a Vezina debate between Carey Price and Devan Dubnyk?

 

There's a debate?

[GD]

Nothing you have said to me was out of any kind of respect. You decided to attack me 2 threads for no reason at all. I have never went out of my way to attack you or your opinion. It happens to me on this board all the time and its really not fair. If you don't like me fine. But it gets kind of annoying everytime I post somebody questions my intelligence for no reason. Nobody deserves that.

 

When we actually began debating the topic I asked you if I was interpreting your points correctly and made my points clear and devoid of any mention of you. To say that nothing I said to you had any sort of respect is entirely ridiculous.

[GD]

Well, I tried

 

So what you're saying - correct me if I'm wrong - is that while Price was better than Dubnyk, Dubnyk was more valuable because his team-mates were worse and needed his contributions more than Price's team-mates?

 

This is essentially where I was going with this. Value = effect*opportunity.

 

What are the 5v5 Sv% numbers? Too lazy to look them up but these are especially team-proofed.

[Dylan]

Dubnyk literally made one of the worst teams in my fantasy league to most likely make the final two. Dubnyk should win MVP in my fantasy league lol