NHL Thread

[Spanky99]

That's for Angrioter! ^^^^

[Spanky99]

Oh, looky here, Booth scores again?

 

Hmmm..........

[Zaun of the Dead]

Booth had like 1 goal in the 1st 5 months of the season. he now has 5 in the last 6 games.

[Spanky99]

Booth had like 1 goal in the 1st 5 months of the season. he now has 5 in the last 6 games.

 

Geez....why is that?

[Horses Fart]

LoL...........the Leafs.....two goals against in 32 seconds! I f***in love it. #tanknation

[Laika]

Laffs should finish 27th at this rate. 9.50% odds at McDavid, lol.

 

Are there elite players available at #4?

[Frag]

Laffs should finish 27th at this rate. 9.50% odds at McDavid, lol.

 

Are there elite players available at #4?

 

Strome/Marner/Hanifin

[GD]

Laffs should finish 27th at this rate. 9.50% odds at McDavid, lol.

 

Are there elite players available at #4?

 

McDavid, Eichel, Marner, Strome, Hanifin

[Laika]

Strome/Marner/Hanifin

 

These are all second-tier elite guys though? TSN recently had Hanifin down at #8 and comped him to Bouwmeester.

[GoldBull]

McDavid, Eichel, Marner, Strome, Hanifin

 

There's a bit of a drop-off after the top 5. Finishing 27th would guarantee one of those guys. Here's hoping.

[Laika]

I would LOL if this season ended up in Toronto drafting a defenseman.

[GD]

These are all second-tier elite guys though? TSN recently had Hanifin down at #8 and comped him to Bouwmeester.

 

Hanifin is probably the worst out of them, but at the very least he should be a very nice building block. Or, at least one team will believe that enough to deal for the pick.

[Laika]

Hanifin is probably the worst out of them, but at the very least he should be a very nice building block. Or, at least one team will believe that enough to deal for the pick.

 

Yeah, maybe if they end up with #5, flip it to Edmonton for like Yak + #22 (or whatever, I don't know).

 

Or, maybe #5 and Reilly for Eichel!

[burlingtonbandit]

If Hanafin turns into a number 1 Dman thats a really good pick. Number one defenceman are right up there with number 1 Centres in terms of value.

 

I'd take a Karlsson, Subban, Doughty etc over a Patrick Kane, Tarasenko etc..

[Laika]

If Hanafin turns into a number 1 Dman thats a really good pick.

 

the key word there is the if

 

they rarely do, and even when it happens it often takes years with Dmen.

 

The amount of highly drafted Dmen that bust for their original drafting team is alarmingly high (I don't have any studies, just my feeling).

[GD]

We should really explore a trade with Edmonton

[burlingtonbandit]

the key word there is the if

 

they rarely do, and even when it happens it often takes years with Dmen.

 

The amount of highly drafted Dmen that bust for their original drafting team is alarmingly high (I don't have any studies, just my feeling).

 

Yeah for sure. I mean look at Adam Larsson with NJ.. Victor Hedman finally looks to be a number 1 D but it took him a while.

[GD]

In contrast, Morgan Reilly is looking pretty good

[Laika]

2012 - 8 defensemen get drafted before Filip Forsberg.

2010 - Gudbranson over Johansen was terrible. St Louis drafts Tarasenko and Schwartz after D-men like Brandon Gormley, Derek Forbort, and Dylan McIlroth get taken.

2008 - Schenn #5 and Bogosian #3 (but no great forwards were taken immediately after)

2007 - Hickey #4, Alzner #5.... Voracek #7. Couture #9.

2006 - Erik Johnson #1..... Toews #3. Backstrom #4. Kessel #5.

2005 - Jack Johnson #3..... Carey Price #5..... Brian Lee #9 - Kopitar #11.

2004 - Cam Barker #3 right before Ladd and Wheeler (holy f*** Wheeler is old!).

 

 

Obviously these are cherry picked examples and proof of NOTHING. But I think that if you did a proper analysis you'd find out that D-men get overdrafted vs. future value.

[burlingtonbandit]

2012 - 8 defensemen get drafted before Filip Forsberg.

2010 - Gudbranson over Johansen was terrible. St Louis drafts Tarasenko and Schwartz after D-men like Brandon Gormley, Derek Forbort, and Dylan McIlroth get taken.

2008 - Schenn #5 and Bogosian #3 (but no great forwards were taken immediately after)

2007 - Hickey #4, Alzner #5.... Voracek #7. Couture #9.

2006 - Erik Johnson #1..... Toews #3. Backstrom #4. Kessel #5.

2005 - Jack Johnson #3..... Carey Price #5..... Brian Lee #9 - Kopitar #11.

2004 - Cam Barker #3 right before Ladd and Wheeler (holy f*** Wheeler is old!).

 

 

Obviously these are cherry picked examples and proof of NOTHING. But I think that if you did a proper analysis you'd find out that D-men get overdrafted vs. future value.

 

Lol f*** don't even let me think about the Brian Lee pick before Kopitar. Jared Cowen at 9 also looks disgusting. I think defensive defenceman have always been overrated and its not just in the draft. Thing is you aren't going to get a number 1 Dman in FA or trade anymore so the only place you can get that is the Draft. Karlsson, Doughty, Subban, Ekblad, Pietrangelo were all high picks and look to be legit franchise Dmen.

[GD]

Yeah, taking defensive defensemen high is usually a recipe to be s*** on.

[Dylan]

lol @ leafs. Beautiful tanking tonight.

[BTS]

lol @ leafs. Beautiful tanking tonight.

 

Do you guys actually enjoy this? Seems like rock bottom and a complete embarrassment.

[havok24]

Do you guys actually enjoy this? Seems like rock bottom and a complete embarrassment.

 

I'm well past the point where I even care anymore, but this is absolutely embarrassing. Just when you think this organization has hit "rock bottom", they somehow manage to outdo themselves the following year.

[GD]

I think this is intentional, though. Dubas/Shanaban realize the reality. i honestly had a lot more shame and embarrassment when guys like Burke and Nonis couldn't figure out why we sucked.

[BTS]

Speaking of embarrassments, is there a pro sports franchise more pathetic than the Oilers? Finishing up their 9th consecutive season with no playoffs, and will finish bottom-3 for the 5th time in six years.

[Dylan]

Do you guys actually enjoy this? Seems like rock bottom and a complete embarrassment.

 

The reward of a top 5 pick this year makes it bearable/

[Zaun of the Dead]

why the hell would we be embarassed??

 

leafs til I die

[BTS]

The reward of a top 5 pick this year makes it bearable/

 

Still gonna be a loooong process. Long-term, you'll be working with Kessel (or whatever he brings back), Rielly, Gardiner, JVR, Bernier, Nylander and your 2015 1st and that's pretty much it in terms of valuable assets.

[z3r0s]

I'd do it if I was the Leafs. Crappy overpaid roster with no chance of competing. You have to tank it out. Their problem is they waited too long and might still pick 5th from the bottom. Not going to get a bad player (we got Galchenyuk close to there), but (hopefully for me) not top tier prospects