NHL Thread

[eastcoastjaysfan]

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[Dylan]

"Eugene Melnyk, owner of the Ottawa Senators, will hold a news conference today at 9:15 a.m. to make a significant announcement. Watch it live here on sportsnet.ca "

 

Possibly Murray stepping down? with his health and all..

[Dylan]

Bobby Ryan's contract extension with OTT is 7 years with an AAV of $7.25M.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Bobby Ryan is a pretty good hockey player but you should not build a freaking team around him....

[Nox]

Bobby Ryan is a pretty good hockey player but you should not build a freaking team around him....

 

That contract is absurd.

[Nox]

Some of those Bodog player props are insane.

 

Patrick Kane for example:

 

82.5 points. That's better than a point per game IF (and that's a giant if) we project perfect health for the season.

 

Patrick Kane has not averaged a point per game in his career. Patrick Kane has not averaged a point per game over the past 3 years combined.

[Nox]

Yup, these are nuts.

 

They have 12 guys with the line set over 80 points. There were only 5 guys last year to go over 80.

 

Keep in mind, the 5 that went over 80 most likely benefited from above average luck as well. You wouldn't project more than 2 or 3 to go over 80 this year.

[BTS]

Lol Ottawa

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Bobby was 85th in goals created last year... Tied with Mike Cammalleri and Tyler Bozak.

 

Great contract.

[BTS]

Anytime you can move three good young assets for 2 years of a one-dimensional scoring winger who isn't elite, and then lock him up for 8 years at near elite money because the optics of letting him walk would be terrible, you do it. Especially when you won't even make the playoffs in the two years you originally acquired.

 

FML

 

 

Bobby was 85th in goals created last year... Tied with Mike Cammalleri and Tyler Bozak.

 

Great contract.

[burlingtonbandit]

Not sure why you guys are complaining. 7 Million in the NHL in a few years is going to be nothing with the way the cap is going up. I would say he probably could have gotten a lot more in free agency. When the cap goes up to 80 million in a year or 2 his 7.25 will be like 6.25 and the cap will only go keep going up if expansion happens.

 

Also he has a modified NTC so you can still deal him in a few years if you have to go down that road. If you look past a number which may seem a little high right now, this is a pretty good deal for Ottawa when you look at all of the circumstances.

[BTS]

He's just not that good a player.

[burlingtonbandit]

He's just not that good a player.

 

He's a great goal scorer as evidenced by his career .138 SH%. He may not do much on the defensive end but I have no problem with this deal. The Cap hit is reasonable and wouldn't stop a team for wanting to trade him in a few years if it doesn't work out for whatever reason.

 

And if you look at it from a non-hockey point of view it was important for the Senators to sign one of their best players longterm after the way Alfie and Spezza just left the org. If they let Ryan walk the Senators would just continue to look like a joke org. that no one wants to play for. As much as you should only look at what the player does on the ice, signing an American star to play in Ottawa looks good from around the league.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

The amount of NTC's in the NHL is pretty hilarious.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

signing an American star to play in Ottawa looks good from around the league.

 

Elaborate

[BTS]

He's a great goal scorer as evidenced by his career .138 SH%. He may not do much on the defensive end but I have no problem with this deal. The Cap hit is reasonable and wouldn't stop a team for wanting to trade him in a few years if it doesn't work out for whatever reason.

 

And if you look at it from a non-hockey point of view it was important for the Senators to sign one of their best players longterm after the way Alfie and Spezza just left the org. If they let Ryan walk the Senators would just continue to look like a joke org. that no one wants to play for. As much as you should only look at what the player does on the ice, signing an American star to play in Ottawa looks good from around the league.

 

Ryan is miscast as a franchise building block, and both his acquisition and extension were the result of desperation - desperation last year to acquire a name after Alfredsson had enough, and desperation this year to keep a player they invested heavily in. I think both decisions were poor. Last offseason was not the time for a two-year rental, and Ryan isn't a guy you build around to the tune of a 7/50+ contract.

 

3rd tier star for a 3rd tier org.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Ryan is miscast as a franchise building block, and both his acquisition and extension were the result of desperation - desperation last year to acquire a name after Alfredsson had enough, and desperation this year to keep a player they invested heavily in. I think both decisions were poor. Last offseason was not the time for a two-year rental, and Ryan isn't a guy you build around to the tune of a 7/50+ contract.

 

3rd tier star for a 3rd tier org.

 

Must be pretty depressing to cheer for both the Jays AND the Sens. I'm scared to ask what team you support in the NFL .... (likely Raiders or Browns)

[BTS]

Must be pretty depressing to cheer for both the Jays AND the Sens. I'm scared to ask what team you support in the NFL .... (likely Raiders or Browns)

 

When the Jays are the healthiest org you cheer for life is a sad place.

[Frag]

Not the best contract by the Sens. Still better than the Phaneuf and Clarkson contracts, though.

[burlingtonbandit]

Ryan is miscast as a franchise building block, and both his acquisition and extension were the result of desperation - desperation last year to acquire a name after Alfredsson had enough, and desperation this year to keep a player they invested heavily in. I think both decisions were poor. Last offseason was not the time for a two-year rental, and Ryan isn't a guy you build around to the tune of a 7/50+ contract.

 

3rd tier star for a 3rd tier org.

 

I agree the trade was more of a PR move then a hockey move but looking back on it the 1st round pick really is the only piece that hurts to give up. But you have to look at the situation right now and if you let an asset walk for nothing in the offseason you look terrible. If you trade him you look terrible because either way it looks like you can't keep players in Ottawa and no one wants to be there.

 

I have no problem signing a great goal scorer who will still have trade value after you sign him, its about keeping an asset. This isn't like baseball where when you sign a free agent his trade value goes down. Ryan probably has more trade value with his contract now then he did as a rental.

[burlingtonbandit]

Must be pretty depressing to cheer for both the Jays AND the Sens. I'm scared to ask what team you support in the NFL .... (likely Raiders or Browns)

 

Colts lol. Playoffs year in and year out and a Superbowl. Much better than cheering for the Vikings if you ask me.

[Sammy225]

Colts lol. Playoffs year in and year out and a Superbowl. Much better than cheering for the Vikings if you ask me.

 

Try this on for size..... Jays, Jets, Buccaneers, Blue Bombers...... At least the Brandon Freaking Wheat Kings are supposed to be good this year.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Try this on for size..... Jays, Jets, Buccaneers, Blue Bombers...... At least the Brandon Freaking Wheat Kings are supposed to be good this year.

 

Aw jeez

[burlingtonbandit]

Try this on for size..... Jays, Jets, Buccaneers, Blue Bombers...... At least the Brandon Freaking Wheat Kings are supposed to be good this year.

 

Oh my god. I sincerely feel bad for you. If you were a Raptors fan at least you could look forward to this year.

[Sammy225]

Aw jeez

 

Might have to start watching basketball so i at least have something to look forward too.

[Dylan]

Might have to start watching basketball so i at least have something to look forward too.

 

pretty much why I started watching TFC this year... oops.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Jays, Habs, Raps, Vikes

 

Habs and Raps are pretty decent right now. Much more optimistic about the Raptors relative to the Habs tho.

[burlingtonbandit]

Jays, Habs, Raps, Vikes

 

Habs and Raps are pretty decent right now. Much more optimistic about the Raptors relative to the Habs tho.

 

Both seem like a 2nd round playoff team with a small chance to get to the 3rd round.

[Dr. Dinger]

Live auction draft with myself, Nox, NJH, and Hurl tonight. As usual, my team is destitute and has a $106 budget, while those cheapskates have like $700 each.

[Nox]

Live auction draft with myself, Nox, NJH, and Hurl tonight. As usual, my team is destitute and has a $106 budget, while those cheapskates have like $700 each.

 

Cry me a god damned river. You won last year lol.

 

You're going to spend $102 on Jeff Carter and you're going to like it.