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So let me get this straight. This poor management team is still in charge. We went hard and heavy on the most coveted free agent (again) and not surprisingly struck out (again). More likely because the management sucks, the core sucks and the farm system sucks, we have no direction. We let go of Romano over 7mil and an arm injury but then resigned a worse pitcher at the same price who also has an arm issue? This team is offensively inept so we traded one of the very few prospects who can actually hit in order to add more defense to an already elite defensive team? Sounds about right for Shatkins and Co Oh yah and were likely about to lose our best home grown player as well

Guys...we are 8.5 games back of the WC with 6 teams in front of us. Atkins is buying for sure

Something positive. Were losing enough that dumbass Atkins cannot justify adding or standing pat at the deadline. Lets hope it keeps up that way. The worst thing this team can do at this point is hover around.500 near the 3rd wildcard spot.

Jays with a chance to sweep a bottom feeder and get above .500 cough cough choke choke

Nothing like a good old fashion ass poundin. Happy ive decided to just watch highlights after and not full games this season.

Thats fair. But I also think because we live in the era where MLB crossed over from the old playoff to the new that we all know what it used to be like. Which means many fans dont necessarily believe that squeaking into the 3rd wildcard spot with 89 or 90 wins and getting bounced without winning a game against the actual good teams is any measure of success. Yea were not the A's, Rocks, or Angels, and we have won a lot more regular season games than in previous eras, but we were never a true playoff contender, world series contender. We were a mediocre team that squeaked into the expanded playoffs a few times and got rightfully bounced immediately.

This team has done lots of regular season winning but hasn't actually won anything. At least when you suck you look forward to the prospects and the idea of building into something, but this team is built, has peaked, the farm system is barren and were on the way down, with a stubborn GM who I have feeling isn't going to do the right thing and blow it up because it probably means his job.

It dont really matter what was left over from AA at this point. Its been 8 and half years since Atkins has taken over. Not including 2016 which was largely the team AA built we have 0 division titles, 0 playoff wins, the highest payroll the Bluejays have ever had, a bottom 5 farm system, a bottom 5 offense and a below .500 record at the start of June with basically every metric saying we are actually a worse club then our record indicates. Its s***, the situation is s***. The management has been s***. If not for the playoffs expanding significantly in the last few years we wouldn't have even made it to the wildcard round one time. Lets just face the facts, Atkins has been f***ing terrible.

Kikuchi, Bo and Yimi would fetch decent returns in prospect form that might just lift our farm system out from the dredges of the bottom of the league. Offer Vlad a contract that is fair for both sides hope he accepts and hope his power returns. Accept that we are not going to make the playoffs for a couple years and try to do a soft rebuild. That my opinion but im definitely not an expert.

but but, I thought beating the White Sox and Pirates meant this team was turning the corner, we might buy instead of sell and trading Vlad or Bo makes no sense at all. Haha. This team needs 18 wins a month to even compete for a wildcard spot at this point, the sell needs to happen and one of Vlad or Bo should absolutely be included. Probably Bo because he would fetch a larger return.

Atkins plan- Keep the core together, hover around .500 for the foreseeable future. Tell the fans were "competing" and we "hope" to be able to sign Vlad and Bo long term. Then just let them explore FA ultimately losing them both. Never get any returns, never win anything and leave an absolute tire fire for the next GM.

So what we have shown we can beat the worst team in the league 5/6 times and now theres nothing but rumors everywhere that we are looking to add. Please this has to be ******** media drama, unless we can nab 17 or 18 wins in June and continue that pace the rest of the way the season is a loss. Maybe Atkins is grasping at straws knowing he is on his last legs??

What is it like 8th highest payroll and a bottom 5 farm system with a below .500 record almost 40 games in. This is a scary downward trajectory.

The Phillies may as well be in a whole different league than us. Just blow it up all ready. What really really sucks though is that Atkins is likely gasping for his job here and will probably trade away any valuable prospects we have remaining to make some phantom wildcard run and try to preserve his head.

Bro it started sinking last season. This is just the slow painful decent to the bottom.