Stoneyen

Not sure where to post this, so Ill ask here. On Fangraphs what's the difference between projections, ROS projections and Updated projections (for Steamer or ZiPS)? Specifically, I guess, what causes the difference between the base projections and the updated, compared to the ROS update?

And Iglesias f***ed up a routine DP ball with 1 out, Rays win on walk off error haha

K Rod loads the bases vs. the Rays in the bottom of the 9th with no outs. Let's see if the Tigers can take back the lead for worst bullpen.

Well he's got a 10.02 K/9 at up to 74 BF...

Kiermaier just hilariously misplayed a ball hit to him in centerfield to let the Tigers take the lead. Rare occurrence, so pretty funny to see.

Wow Bo looks like he could be about 15 years old

O/U 6.5 swinging strikes this inning.

If Donaldson's liner is 30' either direction it might be tied right now. They're not playing THAT much better than us. I'm furious that we're about to be down 0-3 while barely being outscored.

Why aren't you mad?

Go join the f***ing Cleveland board if you're so enamored with them. They've barely outscored us this series.

Meant batter as in position player, and yeah he's their best player so makes sense he's gonna be the thorn in our side.

Because he's their only really good position player

This was the game were supposed to lose. Nbd

Hahaha this is great

14-22 in one run games

Grilli is such a an animal. What an awesome addition

Sanchez looks better every time I see him

Sanchez is good

I agree that it's a combination of both. I really like that idea that part of what we see as random variance is variables we aren't aware of yet or maybe can't fully quantify (yet). Kind of how statcast is opening the window into more batted ball stats and spin rates.

This is something I've been trying to wrap my head around for a little while now. We've all seen the dramatic effects of small sample sizes on players' performance that produce "hot streaks" or "slumps" or lead analysts to say the player is dialed in. What I've been thinking about is whether this is simply random variance or "luck" (with the player always performing at the same level) or is it an actual physical or mental change in the player's approach that goes through normal fluctuations. Ex: If a batter goes 18-33 with 8 XBH and 4HR, is that just a string of BABIP luck and HR/FB luck? Or is it a stretch where the player was seeing the ball exceptionally well and physically "dialed in" and making better contact because of an optimal approach/performance. In the first scenario this sting of positive random variance would be balanced by equal streaks of negative random variance so that over the long haul the batter regresses. Where as in the second scenario the stretch of optimal performance would be balanced by a stretch where the batter wasn't having the same mental and physical approach/performance.

Don't worry, we've got ROWDY

Travis up to 2.1 WAR in 57 games

Lol Gee's got 4 BB and 0 K

Wow Stroman is sniping the corners tonight

I'm very relieved the Leafs didn't get Stamkos. Great player, but we don't need an 8/70 contract for an all offense player, especially at this time when we should probably be aiming for another bottom 5 pick this year. Also WTF are the oilers and habs doing hahahaha