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Can someone gif JD's triple? That was a thoroughly ridiculous bounce. Gonzalez chased it forever. -
That was the most ridiculous bounce I have ever seen.
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I think he just means that Estrada has the worse record while being the much more productive arm.
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Happ allowed two bloops but all the scorched ones ended up in gloves. BABIP has blessed the Jays.
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Saunders, JD, and Trav were a solid set of trades going into 2015. Good work by AA on those.
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General 2016 Blue Jays discussion thread
intentional wok replied to G-Snarls's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
It's a damning number compared to the other AL teams but I'd still like to see the magnitude of each loss. How many leads were single-run and thus open to bloops and bunts to erase. On the other hand, the blown leads were also fairly frequent early in the season. I don't think the bullpen has been particularly bad lately even though the early track record was rocky. -
Venting is perfectly healthy when you're holding some pent up frustration. GDTs sure have a lot of venting, though, to the point that it seems some posters just have zero perspective on the game. The GDT for the Chris Sale game looked less like venting and more like a central air flow of hysteria.
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There were some inexcusable offensive performances early that I couldn't resist commenting on, but was I really that bad? I always thought my posts stayed relatively level-headed when it came to the long term perspective.
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I'm not saying 4 > .500 is ideal, but the team is still poised to make a strong run. I'd also argue that a weekend spent facing Carlos Rodon and Chris Sale is not easy by any stretch.
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2-6 in last 8. s*****, but that's baseball. 41-37 with a hold on Wild Card 2, not even at the season's half yet. Most teams would love to be the Jays right now, so everyone needs to chill.
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Yeah, I was thinking to pull him too. But the guy I had in mind to come in ended up serving the game up like dinner. I'm also not convinced Grilli is markedly better than Chavez (though I don't have the numbers in front of me). Frankly if Pedro Alvarez has one more shreddie for breakfast two Sundays ago most people here see Grilli as a gascan. Basically there's a good chance this game goes south anyway.
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In fairness to Gibby, it was a clean inning with the bottom of the order batting. The situation was absolutely manageable. He was on the cusp of getting his guys too. I don't think any of this is on Gibby.
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No panic from me, but that really was a horrendous pant s***ing from Storen. Two strikes both times and then two HBPs that would have looked intentional in another situation. And of course the bases loaded BB by Chavez. So bad.
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Not quite as bad as the Delabar-Happ-Santos special that time in Minnesota, but this is bad.
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It's the result of a poor approach for posting on this board.
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Okay -- well I look forward to reading your breakdown of Sale's pitch selection and command from this year when you have time.
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How many Chris Sale starts have you watched this year? I want a number if you're going to criticize his command vs. his other starts. Your posts about KC and CLE knocking him around didn't have any observations either - just numbers. What did he do poorly in those starts? If you're going to throw the eyeball critiques at me then I want some from those games too. You don't get to move back and forth to whatever suits your arguments. I want you to answer these questions because I'm looking at over four years of statistics that say Sale is about as good as a major league pitcher can get in this era. I also am not saying Sale had a peak game; only that a pitcher having a peak game can neutralize good hitters (like Sanchez @ DET). And regardless of being peak or not, I'm also not arguing that Sale is perfect. A great game can still result from some missed breaking pitches or not having a "good fastball". You're pretending that I mean a "peak" game is a flawless performance.
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There is a reason why Sale has the numbers he does. Aces dominate good lineups all the time. Our best player makes outs 60% of the time, and he's an MVP. Do you think Kershaw has just faced teams with poor approaches his whole career? Or Price? Or Clemens? Did the Tigers have a bad approach when Sanchez K'd 12 of them? Have you never seen a talented guy have a peak game? All you've been saying is how this is on the Jays while all you've said about Sale is a bunch of cherry picked numbers from a shaky June and how his philosophy is similar to Stroman's without also acknowledging that he brings 9Ks per game as well (vs Stro's 5, or whatever). You also ignored his dominant start against the Sox this week. Did they have a poor approach too, or is it that Sale is much less "hittable" than you're trying to pretend he is so you can rip on the Jays?
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Looks to me like you think an approach vs Miguel Gonzalez could be as effective vs Chris Sale, that it's the Jays' lineup being terrible rather than a world class talent which is the x-factor here. And you're arguing that Sale isn't unhittable because he's had a shaky June, right? Despite all the evidence that he's a pure ace? You also realize that no one on earth has ever argued that anyone is unhittable? Your analysis just Jays-centric hysteria. Everything that goes wrong is a result of the Jays' failings and not the opponents' proven skill.
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This is one of the most homer posts I've ever read. You're comparing the results of starts between Chris Sale and Miguel Gonzalez, who the Orioles didn't even want. And maybe because Sale is an elite talent he is better at executing whatever strategy he wants. And btw, he has 7Ks today. He can very much just do whatever he wants.
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Yeah, you're right. These professional hitters are all terrible. Sale couldn't possibly be deceptive, couldn't possibly be exploiting a strategy that has fuelled seasons worth of Cy-calibre performance.
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When Sanchez dominates a start, he's great. When a proven elite starter dominates the Jays, the batting lineup sucks. A lot of posters need some perspective on this game. And when I say 'game' I mean baseball in general and not just June 26 @ the White Sox.
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General 2016 Blue Jays discussion thread
intentional wok replied to G-Snarls's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
I'd enjoy Chavez as a starter, but would he accept an assignment to AAA? Could he refuse it? I wouldn't blame him if he did. Not sure how a AAA assignment in a walk year can affect future contracts, but it can't be a non-issue. -
Godley scampers off the mound like someone is waving a fresh biscuit for him.
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Are you sure you want to be part of the club that doesn't complain? We touch each other.
