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General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)
Ehjays replied to Grant77's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)
Ehjays replied to Grant77's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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Toronto Blue Jays Roster Discussion (2022)
Ehjays replied to TwistedLogic's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Take it for what it is, its a guy on Twitter that has a youtube channel and says he got inside info on the Olson trade before he was traded from the A's. Now he is saying he has same inside info on Acuna being traded...Toronto is listed, -
Toronto Blue Jays Roster Discussion (2022)
Ehjays replied to TwistedLogic's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Blue Jays Expected To Trade From Catching Surplus By Darragh McDonald | November 8, 2022 at 5:44pm CDT The Blue Jays have an enviable crop of talented catchers and are expected to use one of them in a trade this offseason, reports Jon Morosi of MLB Network. It’s been speculated for quite some time that the Blue Jays will have to move on from a catcher eventually, given their various options. Danny Jansen, Alejandro Kirk and Gabriel Moreno are all MLB-caliber backstops with varying degrees of experience. Since most teams are lucky to even have one good catcher, let alone three, it’s fairly logical to think they might consider dealing one of them to address another part of the roster. Last offseason, Toronto’s catching mix came up often in offseason chatter and it has only gotten more crowded since then. Despite the numbers of options available, there were good reasons they didn’t pull the trigger on a deal a year ago. At the end of 2021, Gabriel Moreno was considered one of the top prospects in baseball but only had three Triple-A games on his résumé. Alejandro Kirk had an exciting debut in 2020 but was limited by injury to just 60 games in 2021. Danny Jansen, the longest-tenured of the bunch, also missed significant time in 2021, only getting into 70 contests. Given there was some uncertainty with each of their three choices, it made sense to take a wait-and-see approach. Here in 2022, Moreno added 62 more Triple-A games, hitting .315/.386/.420 for a wRC+ of 120. He also got into 25 big league contests and produced a .319/.356/.377 line with a 113 wRC+ while looking strong on defense, including throwing out 7 of 17 attempted base stealers. Kirk stayed off the IL and got into 139 games. In that time, he hit .285/.372/.415 for a wRC+ of 129 while also posting 9 Defensive Runs Saved and a 7.6 from the FanGraphs framing metric. Jansen still dealt with injuries and only got into 72 games, though he hit a tremendous 15 home runs in that time and slashed .260/.339/.516 for a wRC+ of 140. His defensive marks were also generally strong, allowing him to post 2.6 fWAR despite playing less than half of the team’s games. If the Jays felt they had enough catching to consider a trade a year ago, the circumstances have only pushed them further towards that conclusion since then. The only question will be which of the group to move on from. Jansen got a cup of coffee in 2018 but established himself as a regular in 2019 by getting into 107 games. His bat was below average but he provided 12 DRS and earned an 8.1 from the FanGraphs framing metric. His bat has continued evolving in the following seasons, though that has come with durability concerns. Due to the pandemic-shortened season in 2020 and two straight years of injury disruptions, he hasn’t played more than 72 games in a single season since 2019. He also only has two remaining years of club control and is projected for a $3.7MM arbitration salary in 2023 by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz. Kirk and Moreno are each still in their pre-arb years, with the Jays still having four years of club control over Kirk and six over Moreno. That extra cheap control surely makes them more appealing to the Jays in the long term but it would also lead to greater returns in any trade talks. Various teams will likely be considering upgrades behind the plate this winter, including the Astros, Cardinals, Tigers, Cubs, Brewers, Diamondbacks, Twins, Guardians, Pirates, Red Sox and Rays. Some of those teams will look to free agency, with Willson Contreras the top of the market. However, he will surely require a significant contract as well as draft pick forfeiture, since he will undoubtedly receive and reject a qualifying offer from the Cubs. There will be other options available, such as Christian Vázquez, Gary Sánchez, Tucker Barnhart and more, though those players are all older than the trio on Toronto’s roster and will likely earn higher salaries on the open market. Regardless of how the Jays ultimately decide to play it, this catching surplus might be their best path towards improving the club this offseason. As recently explored by MLBTR’s Mark Polishuk as part of the Offseason Outlook series, the Jays are already slated for a franchise-record payroll, even before making any moves. A few non-tenders could drop that number a bit and ownership could greenlight some extra spending, but it’s possible that the Jays aren’t positioned for huge free agent strikes this winter. If that is indeed the case, a trade centered around one of their backstops could be the ticket to improving the roster for 2023. Starting pitching will likely be an area of focus for the club, with Ross Stripling departing via free agency and Hyun Jin Ryu set to miss at least part of the season due to Tommy John surgery. They will still have a strong front two in Alek Manoah and Kevin Gausman but then a group of guys coming off down years in José Berrios, Yusei Kikuchi and Mitch White. Finding starting pitchers that are both cheap and good is generally quite difficult to do, but the Jays look to be in good position to turn to the trade market instead. -
I hope Ross doesnt leave Zulu exposed, he will be gone.
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RULE 5 Draft https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/the-opener-diaz-injuries-rule-5.html The deadline to add players to the 40-man roster in order to protect them from the Rule 5 draft is November 15th this year. Seeing as there was no R5 draft last offseason, teams will likely have more players to protect than usual, which could lead to roster crunches across baseball. This could also lead to some players getting cut from 40-man rosters a few days ahead of November 18th’s non-tender deadline, and some minor trades such as yesterday’s Sam Hilliard deal between the Rockies and Braves. Overall, with these dates being earlier on the offseason calendar, fans should expect a larger quantity of winter moves to happen in this first week of the offseason than in recent years, though said moves won’t necessarily be at the top of the free agent market.
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i think you could add Cleveland to that list as well.
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White Sox To Hire Charlie Montoyo As Bench Coach By Anthony Franco and Darragh McDonald | November 1, 2022 at 7:35pm CDT The White Sox landed on their new skipper this morning, with various reports indicating that Royals bench coach Pedro Grifol will take over the dugout. Grifol has apparently already tabbed his top lieutenant. Former Blue Jays manager Charlie Montoyo will join Chicago’s staff as bench coach, as first reported on Twitter by Northbrook Bob. It could be the start of a significant coaching staff overhaul on the South Side, as Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic tweeted this morning that a number of the members from Tony La Russa’s staff will not return. Pitching coach Ethan Katz is a seeming exception, as Rosenthal notes he’s expected back for a third season. Daryl Van Schouwen of the Chicago Sun-Times hears the same and reports that bullpen coach Curt Hasler is likely to stick around as well. The rest of the staff makeup seems to be up in the air. Most notably, that includes now-former bench coach Miguel Cairo. The longtime big league infielder was hired as La Russa’s right-hand man going into the 2021 season. He spent two years as Chicago’s bench coach and took over as acting manager at the end of this past season when La Russa stepped away to attend to the health problems that eventually led him to vacate the managerial position. Cairo got an interview from the Sox for the full-time managerial position, but he obviously didn’t land that job. Now, it’s an open question whether he’ll return to the organization in any capacity. Montoyo adds an experienced voice to the Chicago coaching staff. The 57-year-old has coached or managed in the majors for the past seven years. After more than a decade and a half managing in the Rays farm system, Montoyo got a bump to the MLB staff as Kevin Cash’s bench coach heading into the 2016 campaign. He held the role for three seasons before the Blue Jays hired him as their skipper over the 2018-19 offseason. The Puerto Rico native managed the Jays for three-plus seasons, leading Toronto to a playoff berth in 2020. The Jays narrowly missed the postseason last year. Toronto started the 2022 campaign 46-42 and held a playoff spot as the All-Star Break approached, but the Jays decided to go in another direction and fired Montoyo on July 13. Bench coach John Schneider was promoted and guided the team to a 46-28 record down the stretch, clinching a Wild Card berth before losing in the first round of the playoffs to the Mariners. Montoyo’s past bench coach and managerial experience should be welcome for Grifol, who’ll manage an MLB team for the first time. He and the front office figure to build out the remainder of his staff over the coming weeks. Hitting coach Frank Menechino, assistant hitting coach Howie Clark and base coaches Daryl Boston and Joe McEwing are among those who appear to have uncertain futures as the Sox shuffle their staff.
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Toronto Blue Jays Roster Discussion (2022)
Ehjays replied to TwistedLogic's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
a Few Jays are finalist for silver slugger -
Toronto Blue Jays Roster Discussion (2022)
Ehjays replied to TwistedLogic's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
O Neil is ok, he's a Canadian kid with a couple years of control left and a couple GG. St Louis fans have been wishing for a Healthy Reyes longer than we have been hoping for a healthy Pearson. I would pass on him. Hicks lights up the radar and is interesting. -
Toronto Blue Jays Roster Discussion (2022)
Ehjays replied to TwistedLogic's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
George Springer Undergoes Surgery To Remove Bone Spur; Expected To Be Ready For Spring Training By Simon Hampton | October 27, 2022 at 2:25pm CDT Blue Jays outfielder George Springer has undergone surgery to remove a bone spur from his right elbow, Kaitlyn McGrath of The Athletic reports. Springer is expected to be ready in time for spring training next year. Into the second year of a six-year, $150MM deal signed in 2021, Springer had another successful season, slashing .267/.342/.472 with 25 home runs and grading out as slightly above average in center, earning one Outs Above Average. It earned Springer his fourth trip to the All Star game this summer, and his first as a Blue Jay. There had been plenty of uncertainty around Springer heading into the off-season, given the way his season ended. The 32-year-old was carted off the field during the Jays wildcard loss to the Mariners after colliding with teammate Bo Bichette while pursuing a fly ball. Earlier in the off-season, Blue Jays general manager Ross Atkins said Springer sustained a concussion and a strained left shoulder in that collision, so given this surgery was on his right elbow it appears this is unrelated. The injury concerns do raise question marks over Springer’s future in center though. While he remained slightly above average in 2022, his numbers are declining as his Outs Above Average dropped from three to one this year, and Defensive Runs Saved dropped to -4 from -1 in 2021. Given Springer’s injury and the fact 2023 will be his age-33 season, it’s fair to wonder if the Jays may opt to shift him to a corner spot or DH him more frequently and seek an external upgrade in center. Springer remains an elite player though, and with $96.7MM and four years remaining on his contract, Toronto will be motivated to give his body the best chance to hold up over the life of that deal. -
Toronto Blue Jays Roster Discussion (2022)
Ehjays replied to TwistedLogic's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Yeah If that deal doesnt go though, who is the catcher for the Cardinals now that Yadi is retired? Do they have a need in that position? -
Toronto Blue Jays Roster Discussion (2022)
Ehjays replied to TwistedLogic's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Not sure what Astros needs are, but you may get the biggest return for Biggio from them, if not for his upside but PR would be nice as well. Now, you increase your return value for Jansen by adding Biggio.. -
Toronto Blue Jays Roster Discussion (2022)
Ehjays replied to TwistedLogic's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)
Ehjays replied to Grant77's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
I see Merrifield is in there as well for Utility. LOL I find it funny they give the DH a GG. -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)
Ehjays replied to Grant77's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
It doesnt say when he injured it, but should be good to go for spring. Lourdes Gurriel Undergoes Wrist Surgery, Expected To Be Ready For Spring Training By Nick Deeds | October 20, 2022 at 5:46pm CDT Per Kaitlyn McGrath of The Athletic, Blue Jays outfielder Lourdes Gurriel Jr. underwent surgery on his left wrist today. He’s expected to be ready for Spring Training. Gurriel spent 2022 as Toronto’s primary left fielder, slashing .291/.343/.400 (114 wRC+) in 121 games this season. With just 5 home runs in 2022, Gurriel saw his power evaporate this season. Gurriel had hit at least 11 home runs in every season of his career prior to this year, with 21 homers in 2021 being the most he had hit in a season, and his second time eclipsing 20 home runs in a season. The news that he had been dealing with a wrist issue this season may provide an explanation for this power outage. While his power dipped in 2022, Gurriel’s season wasn’t a total loss. He still posted the 51st lowest strikeout rate in the majors among hitters with at least 400 plate appearances along with the best wRC+ in a full season of his career, though he fared better during the shortened 2020 season (134 wRC+) as well as during his 84 games played in 2019 (125 wRC+). Headed into the offseason, Gurriel’s hold on the everyday left field job in Toronto already seemed tenuous, with the outfield being a clear place where the Blue Jays could improve their offense going into 2023. With Gurriel expected to be ready for spring training, there’s little reason to think the surgery changes the front office’s calculus, but it’s still likely that Toronto looks for upgrades at the outfield corners this offseason, with the likes of David Peralta, Joc Pederson, and Mitch Haniger among potential options. Regardless of any potential additions to Toronto’s outfield, Gurriel will earn $5.4MM for his age 29 season in 2023, the final year of his seven year, $22MM contract with the Blue Jays. Following the end of that contract, Gurriel will be arbitration eligible headed into the 2024 season before potentially hitting free agency for the first time during the 2024-25 offseason. -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)
Ehjays replied to Grant77's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Not sure how much truth there is to this I guess we will see, I cant remember the Jays giving a 3 year deal to a manager. I always thought the did 1 + an option. https://www.baseballrumors.me/2022/10/exclusive-blue-jays-to-sign-manager-to.html?fbclid=IwAR1eNF_E63xvAwrqRIPCeKL_5zLKdFOTlc8KyA2-WY6oJMRWt5OplaO189M EXCLUSIVE: Blue Jays To Sign Manager To 3-Year Deal News on the Toronto Blue Jays' managerial front, as our colleague Shane Seney of BaseballRumors.me is reporting that Toronto will be removing the "interim" tag and re-signing John Schneider to a three-year deal to stay on as manager. The Blue Jays didn't last very long in the postseason in 2022, but after struggling to stay above water for the first half of the regular season, Schneider took over from the deposed Charlie Montoyo and led the team to an impressive 46-28 record as interim manager to secure the top Wild Card spot in the American League. That's a 101-win pace over a full season. -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)
Ehjays replied to Grant77's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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Nice score for Edwin
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Who Would You Like To See Win The World Series?
Ehjays replied to The Cats Ass's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
OK Mr Boras, Why should we care about how much money a team spends. Is the goal not to field a competitive team? They and Tampa do a great job on a lower budget. I think that is a credit to them. -
I like it too but it wont be this offseason, as I believe I read they were focusing on beyond the fences this first year
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No chance you get Burnes or Woodruff out of Mil ....I just saw Stearns talking the other day saying he screwed up trading Hadar and also that Stearns said the lack of depth in Milwaukee’s rotation proved costly and would merit attention in the offseason. https://www.stalberttoday.ca/baseball/brewers-stearns-hader-trade-hurt-team-more-than-expected-5939182
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