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Everything posted by Orgfiller
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Rodriguez is definitely cooked if this is what they’re getting back for him. Still a strange roster fit for the O’s.
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I honestly have no idea what Zac Gallen is expecting out of FA by rejecting the QO. His performance has been declining for two straight years to the point where he was a below average innings eater this year. He’s also on the wrong side of 30 now. Now with a QO attached it’s gonna kill his market. Hope for like a 3/45-50 deal? Maybe he just really hates Arizona and the bad vibes that it’s brought to their pitching staff.
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If his fastball velo jumps back up at least a tick I think he's still in for a big payday.
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I feel like all of these guys are expensive enough at that price point that they should take it, lest their market be even more hampered by the fact that teams will now have to forfeit a draft pick to sign them. I feel like nobody is giving them a 4 year deal, and if they are they could make anywhere from 30-50% of the deal value in just taking the QO.
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To be fair, regression to the mean could have you believe that Bo could very well work himself back into shape, and return to his "bad but good enough because he's a shortstop" defensive value. Naturally the projections don't have all the information available. Bo is entering his age 28 season, and this isn't normally where you'd expect defensive utility to fall off a cliff. The Varsho projection on the other hand, makes absolutely no sense. Has to be an error in the inputs.
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Non negative in this case means the positional adjustment from SS makes up for his otherwise below average defense at the position. Historically Bo has never provided "negative" defensive value because relatively bad defense at SS is still valuable. In 2025 he was horrendous though. The projections are regressing him to his career mean, but it doesn't account for the fact that he's a beefy boy now with leg injuries beginning to mount.
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The Blue Jays didn't even give Yarbrough a second look as a depth option following a half a season where he was legitimately kind of good for them. The Yankees guaranteed him a roster spot two weeks into FA after he was injured for most of the year and not even that good for them, lol. Entering his age 34 season btw. Stark difference in what winning organizations do vs those struggling to keep up.
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Not sure what Austin Martin you're talking about, but the one on the Twins that lives on the injured list, has no power, and plays every position he's assigned poorly is most certainly not showing 2-3 WAR potential. If anything SWR is the one we'd like to have back from that deal the most. Horwitz does seem like a decent piece who might carve out a nice career, but I don't think we should be crying about losing Lyle Overbay for our starting SS in the WS and next year and beyond.
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Yes, but he'll now be 26 coming off injury and hasn't sniffed AAA. It's hard to keep those guys in the 40-man even if they'd be nice to have in the minors as depth and they might pop up as guys elsewhere.
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I agree, but he could just be completely broken. The last time he even had a reliever's workload of innings was in 2022. He could come back throwing 93 with no command.
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I doubt they give up on Tiedemann entirely although I could see it, but nobody could give less of a f*** about Cooke and Brock. Definitely think we retain Arias, although can't really see any team keeping him on the MLB roster for the full year. 21 and with only 150 bad PAs in AA or above.
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Diaz is excellent, but you could probably sign Suarez and Fairbanks for less money and term than Diaz would command on his own.
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The difference maker here is the defense. Straw plays premium OF defense including at CF, whereas Clase seem average at best in a corner. Clase is a much (like 10 points of wRC+) better hitter, and at least is a switch hitter for whatever little that means since he's not exactly a world beater against either side. Speed is probably a wash although Clase might be more willing to go for a stolen base in a key spot, for better or for worse.
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Is he becoming their hitting coach? If so makes sense that he would leave/they would let him. Mense seemed to be close with a number of the players like Davis Schneider, you always saw them together during the celebrations. Hopefully we bring in another young forward thinking guy who's up with the times.
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This feels worse than just sending back $50M in straight cash to the Padres along with a couple of prospects lol. Having to pay Bogaerts until 2033 and a rehabbing old Darvish until 2028 is so gross lol. If you play the salary dump game you're gonna have a bad time. It would kill our tax bill and depth. I'd only consider eating the Darvish contract and even then it kills our financial flexibility. Rogers will spend but not outrageously so.
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Oh yeah, wasn't trying to imply he'd be the best arm in our bullpen or anything, there's definitely some concerning warning signs. Just mentioning that while the stuff has declined, he's somewhat tried to adjust by locating better so he doesn't totally fall off the table. He's not the monster he was in 22-23, but he should be a valuable reliever in the bullpen who you can feel comfortable putting into high leverage spots. And hopefully the red flags in his profile bring his price down to account for the risk.
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Ross Atkins is just waiting for him to become old enough to be considered a non prospect and that's when his trap card activates. +15 contact from grit and grind, +20 clutch from feel good stories, +10 defense from being a team player, -5 baserunning from being in Jays org for too long. Schreck turns 26 in mid July, look for him to be getting steam around then.
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Yamamoto was in his own class coming out of Japan. Imai isn't quite there, he's probably closer to a Kikuchi type, since the command is a grade or two below some of these top Japanese guys we've seen previously like Yamamoto and Tanaka, but the stuff is good. Less of an ace and more of a solid #3 guy is the upside here, with a decent floor.
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I think you're kidding yourself if you don't have Tucker as the best FA available. The defense isn't special but he's an excellent hitter and baserunner. Since 2021 (his first proper full season) he's 10th in the MLB in wRC+ and WAR. Left handed of course which allows us to slot him neatly either at second or fourth in the lineup while breaking up our righties. Doesn't strike out and walks a ton which fits our team philosophy to a tee, and yeah he also has a career .234 ISO. Only real concern with him is he's not the most durable guy out there. If that limits his ceiling to only 4.5-5 WAR every year you can live with it, but you're of course paying a premium for that value if he doesn't have odd years where he's pushing 5.5-6+ wins. With that said, you're likely not getting both Bo and Tucker, so you gotta make the decision that if you must have one, which one is easier for you to find internal options to make up for the value, while giving you financial flexibility of making other additions. Tucker increases our position on the win curve and balances our lineup, with Ernie likely then doing his best to replace Bo, but it might come at the cost of not allowing us to shop at the top of the pitching FA market. Keeping Bo, seeing if Barger develops further, and signing a top pitcher could be more viable potentially. It's a fun thought exercise, and as long as they can get one of those guys without hampering them from further additions then we'll be in a good spot regardless.
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With Suarez I'm definitely most concerned with the durability and declining velo than I am his velo in a vacuum. I think the stuff is good enough and the command is excellent, but he's never broken the 30 GS mark, and the velo just keeps tanking even though he's getting better as a pitcher overall. If the velo stays where it currently is, I still think he's a very good pitcher who will start playoff games. But there's the injury history, now on the wrong side of 30, and notable declining velo three seasons in a row. Those are the kind of things that certainly don't get better with age. If I had a crystal ball that told me he's guaranteed to give you 150+ IP, always be available for the playoffs, and his velo didn't decline any further, I wouldn't hesitate to bank on him as a middle-low tier TOR arm.
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John Schneider - Possible contract extension
Orgfiller replied to G-Snarls's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
First of all, heavy disagree on Dave Roberts out managing Schneider in that series. This to me is heavy revisionist logic based on the outcome of the games. He didn't use his bench properly at all, but ultimately it didn't really matter. Mookie Betts was a black hole and hit second for most of the series. Starting Miguel Rojas in a game 7 should have been a stupid reactionary move, but of course it worked out for him. His pitching usage was nothing special, he just had the luxury of Yamamoto being a robot and bailing him out for 3 wins single handedly. Ohtani staying to pitch 3 innings in Game 7 was objectively a bad call and almost lost them the series. If you look at the numbers, for whatever reason Vlad hits significantly better in the 3 spot, in his entire career over thousands of PAs. There's gonna be a lot of noise to that, but if the reason is psychological then you simply have to put your best hitter and player in the most comfortable position, since that's what's best for the team to win. -
John Schneider - Possible contract extension
Orgfiller replied to G-Snarls's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Honestly, Little just always has that look on the mound where he looks like he's s***ing his pants. I really can't blame JS for avoiding using him with the body language and general mental fortitude that he visibly shows out there. Don't forget he also gave up the game-winning HR in the 18 inning marathon! So much for the guy being able to keep the ball in the park lol, gave up two of the biggest homers the pitching staff allowed in the entire postseason run, in only 4 IP! I think while the SSS criticism is fair, there's something to kind of trust the hot hand a bit in the playoffs, when for some guys the moment is too big. He arguably left Varsho up too high in the lineup for a bit too long when Barger was crushing it and it hurt us a bit, not that I'm blaming that on Schneider. Fluharty didn't quite maintain the magic in the Dodgers series, Fisher's command regressed a bit, Seranthony was gas canning heavily. Meanwhile Hoffman was having the best stretch of the season at the perfect time, and of course it would come back to bite us to rely on him when we needed it the absolute most. Not to mention JS single handedly building Varland's innings count up so he could be ready for a full season starter's workload.

